Why???
I work a places with 6 floors and stretched out over a large area yet still only need one router.
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Because I have I big house and I have mobile connection because itās faster than a cable one. Two routers are for local network, one is cisco dual wan router and two of them are lte routers. I have two lte routers because my net is slow and it has a weak signal. Two lte routers gives me more robust and stable connection.
Ok, the 2 routers that handle a WAN connection I understand, but the internal routers are harder.
VLANs or L3 switches seems more appropriate here.
I think he is simply mixing up routers with access points.
I use internal routers in wifi mesh mode and cisco as a gateway for lan. Yeah maybe vlan on internal network will be better but those routers doesnāt support vlan.
No I donāt.
I think that one of members here said, that he has in the range of 100 devices on wifi without problems (canāt remember who, thoughā¦)
But, if you have 50+ devices then network equipment itās even more important. You say you have 5 routersā¦ which ones? As i said, itās all about price. Routers in the range of 10-20ā¬ canāt handle 50+ devices, ones in the price range 100+ā¬ can. LTE routerā¦well, itās a very good question how quality is wifi partā¦ combo devices are never as good as devices, made for one and only specific purpose.
And, in case of multiple routers itās very good idea to put them in some sort of mesh system. I have 3 routers, too, connected in asus AiMesh system (beside menioned main one i have two rt-ac86u).
All i wanna say is that wifi devices are exactly as good as zigbee ones, if whole system is correctly defined and programmed.
5 routers for a family household? Means 5 wan connections, 5 (probably nat-ed) public ip addresses and so on? Wow thats religious!
I use two xiaomi routers working in wifi mesh mode for local wifi. And still some parts of the house have a weak signal or there is no at all signal. Wifi is a bad. During the day speed usually drops to 5 mbit or even less. This is because in Croatia isp companies are not interested in making better infrastructure. They do that only were there is a lot of customers. 5g exist here on some spots in town cente, my isp doesnāt have ipv6 and so on and on
No I have 2 wan routers so two wan connections. But my wifi is really slow and thatās the reason Iām having this setup.
If it works it works, but I would probably have pulled a cable from the router to each end of the house and have set the routers up in each end of the cables as APs only with same settings except the channels.
The channels should then be set to 1, 6 and 11 for 2.4GHz and likewise spread out for 5GHz (I canāt remember the frequency spread in that band atm) if the routers have that available.
I cant pull a cable. I use powerline adapters to connect local network to cisco router. You cant to that because walls are made from reinforcement cement and thick bricks.
But I will check a channels when I get back home.
Why 2 WAN connections?
Maybe iāmm missing something, but my suggestion:
- I would have one single router which receives intranet , say your LTE router. This device would be only LTE internet receiver, nothing more. No wifi, no local network, nothing, only internet. Iād put it where LTE signal is best.
- Then iād connect this output from LTE device to my local router (main router, ONLY device with ārouterā function in the house)
- i would configure all other routers as access points, connected to main router via Mesh mode, if possible
- if Mesh is not possible, iād set all wifi on all devices to same channel, all SSIDās to same name/password (even 2.4GHz/5GHz if you have it). This way switching through APās will be seamless/automatic. Donāt set each device to a different wifi channel.
Also: powerline adapters are frequently cause of problems. Just an example: i tested such adapter (gigabit, not a cheap one) and it worked perfectly until i turned on chinese LED lamp - then immediately totally lost connectionā¦
Hmā¦ wifi signal has nothing to do with LTE signal, unless you mean that during the day your wifi is so congested (multiple apartmentsā¦?). If so, thereās not much you can unless play with channels and find one which is āmost clearā. Also note that if you have so congested wifi youāll also have similar congested zigbee. Only advantage in zigbee can be narrower channels, so maybe itās kinda easier to find āfreeā gap.
I know how it is on concrete wall apartment (my friend has similar problem) - signal from living room doesnāt work anymore through closed living room doors and closed bedroom doors across corridorā¦ Itās justā¦so many routers just calls for problems. Look at this as if there were multiple bosses in one jet planeā¦ youāre bound to crashā¦
I have two lte routers because my isp infrastructure is bad. During the day when people are using the net internet speed drops a lot. Usually to 5 mbit or less. I experience problems with my networking from home while my nephew turn on the YouTube. My vpn connection went down immediately. Two routers help me maintain stability of internet connection. When I was talking about wifi I thought on lte internet connection.
Routers are placed on attic and connected to cisco router. The only way I can connect my cisco router with my local house router is to use powerline adapter I canāt run a cable to attic because walls are made from reinforcement concrete.
I live in a house not in a apartment.
I have wifi mesh network on my local xiaomi routers.
There isnāt much to do about lte connection because isp infrastructure is rubbish.
And itās all the same what ever isp you use. You can choose between bad and worse
Ok, we agree about LTE connection - if itās bad thereās nothing much you can do.
Wifi is another matter. Thereās plenty it can be done here. Having routers only on attic is one of worst spots, iām sure you agree.
Cables can be placed in many waysā¦ i guess you really wonāt ābreakā concrete walls and put cables in, but one of options is āabove wallsā - i donāt know how to say itā¦ like THIS. Usually places can be found where furniture is amost to the ceiling, so such cables practically wonāt be even visible.
Of course, thereās āi canātā and thereās āiām not allowed toāā¦ two different things. If second one is true youāre stuckā¦ Sometimes drastic measures have to be made in order something to work as desiredā¦ sad, but true.
One of option is also a number of extenders connected around the house, inter-connected via wifi. Extenders are available as āplug-inā models, so you only need a free power outlet. Such system works quite ok if extenders are mounted at places where wifi signal to next extender is still ādecentā, so that they see each other with decent wifi signal strength. Note that sensors etcā¦ from HA have nothing to do with bad LTE internet, only with badly placed internal home network. They communicate only locally with HA.
But, if your powerline adapter work ok, just make sure you donāt buy any cheap chinese crap to interfere with itā¦
Well attic is the highest spot. When I had only one lte router i tried to move it around the house but there isnāt any significant change. Router placement itās not a problem. Lack of wifi towers covering this part of Zagreb is. Why isp want place more towers ?Well because for them this is expensive investment and there arenāt any buildings just houses. As i remember some woman from some isp check it out for me and the nearest wifi tower is 2 km from my location. Nearest!!
I know I can run this plastic channel but I want do it. It looks like a crap and still I will have to drill through the walls and I donāt want to do that.
I have a gigabyte powerline adapters and for now they are working fine. Forgot a brand but it doesnāt matter. I use two pair of them. One pair to connect tv to local router and another pair to connect local router to a gateway.
I tried extender and this doesnāt work for me. Itās better to use wifi mesh. I might need one more router to put it in a mesh mode but will not do it for now. It can wait.
As for devices goes there is no chance that I will be buying wifi devices any more. Zigbee ones works great for me. I have 10 smart plugs that I use as router for zigbee and this is working very well.
Ohā¦ so if i understand correct, you use PUBLIC wifi spots?
No man, I have prepaid internet. But my internet connection on great day and ever greater timing doesnāt exceed 30 mbit.
In average is 15 mbit.
Itās ridiculous.
But, please, be consequent in naming stuff, you are talking about.
You already named your ISP connection WiFi, LTE, and whatever.
If you want adequate help, you really need to be precise with this.
As I made up from your story, I GUESS, as you are not consequent, that you have two 4G LTE modems running on one account?
So do you also use two SIM cards for this?
Actually the best for us to understand your situation will be, when you make a basic schematics of your network with all the routers and accespoints in it.
Oke you are right. Iām just on my vacation laying on the beach and speaking to people.
I really do not need any help. I donāt know how this came up. It began about wall switches and ending in wifi, routers and lte connections.
Of course I have two sim cards one for each router. How else could I run two lte routers.