Doesn’t hovering the link gives you an indication of the actual URL, in whatever email client you’re using? If not, considering your cautiousness, I’d suggest to switch client
I wasn’t looking for advice. It was really more of an observation with the hope that if it were genuine the sender might confirm it. And if it were genuine they might adjust the content to be more reassuring.
And also I meant it as a possible warning to others. Admittedly without explicitly saying so.
I am well aware of hovering my mouse too.
I use Outlook which seems to send all links through some kind of checker:
I very vaguely remember a legitimate invitation to join a research study like this. You give them control of your heat pump to prevent rolling blackouts when demand exceeds supply. They just set your thermostat a bit colder/hotter.
I wasn’t in the target geographic area and I would not have participated.
And as I said: “very vaguely”. I am not at all sure this is legitimate.
It was nothing like that but just about UX like stated in the 2021.8 release notes:
UX stands for “User Experience”, which is Matthias’ area of expertise and what he will be working on improving. His goal is to make Home Assistant easier to use and accessible for everyone. He will be setting up design processes and tooling, doing user research and making designs.
If you are interested in joining the Home Assistant user research group, you can show your interest by filling in this Google Form that Matthias has prepared.
TBH, I’m not sure why Klogg is getting any flack for simply posting in the HA forum about a concern they have about an unexpected email that claims to be from HA.
What’s the big deal?
If you have no info to provide then just move on. I see no reason to chastise Klogg for simply providing info on something that looked suspicious and might impact others here as well.
I can see the validity of this post and I consider it a PSA. So I say thanks for the heads up.
it’s hard to find info on something vague like this without posting here especially given the rule against tagging people especially HA staff.
He’s not getting any flack.
Just that the OP wasn’t looking for confirmation that the email was legit, it was asking for a “plain text URL”, which derailed the post.
To be honest, I also would have been very cautious with an email containing a link to “https://app.usabilityhub.com”, with a Nabu Casa signature (not everyone know HA = Nabu Casa), a Home Assistant look & feel and a “mailchimp” logo
At least some small forewarning blog post that a test is being launched would have been a good start, especially considering those tests are far and between, and people might (do) not remember that this research group even exists
I think it stands to reason that official comms or any other emails from NC/HA employees should come from the official domains and links should use the official domains (and not be obfuscated behind click trackers and shortened URLs, unless it’s your own shortening domain/service).
Additionally many E-Mail providers themself like to track their users and therfor manipulate each and every link before it reaches the users mailbox
Beside most people don’t even bother to hover (or are distracted by the huge tracking urls/parameter) and maybe just blindly trust a hyperlink present like this
Self-hosting a mail server implies owning and managing an actual DNS domain.
A tad more complicated than DuckDNS and, sorry to say, a tad too complicated for 99% of those using HAOS and addons because they have difficulties self-hosting a MQTT broker