By the way, nothing is impossible. its just allot of work that they are not willing to spend the time on.
Thanks Tom, I was just about to ask for the same thing and this post popped up. I also love this idea of a weekly schedule helper and yes with some small tweaks it will be perfect.
- Maybe the same as Tom if I am understanding correctly, double click time, then a pop up card to adjust the time then click save. This will help when using phone app as it is near impossible to set the time when using the phone app.
- Like Tom said. 30 minutes blocks are not what we are use to in HA (full control). I would say down to 1 minute to line up with HA as it checks every minute. This is realy a no brainier.
- Not sure what Tom asking for here, but I am sure once developed will make sense.
Thanks Tom for requesting this feature request. I would like to use this helper in a blueprint but it needs a bit of work first. I am sure the HA team will see this as a no brainier and with their programming skills it will be an easy upgrade.
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I love the schedule helper! I am literally rewriting many of my scripts that had hard-coded times in them to use the flexibility of that helper!
I agree that 15 minute increments would be much more helpful. That’s a great recommendation!
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I need the 1 Min. resolution for schedules too.
To keep the effort minimal, please add at least a toggle to configure the schedule in yaml.
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Finer grained control would make the schedule helper far more useful. I hope this will get implemented someday.
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Extra features wanted:
Ability to not only schedule fixed times but also schedule based on:
- sun elevation times: dark/night , light/day, sunrise, solar noon, sunset, nadir
- an addition or a substraction of “randomized minutes” to the scheduled times (fixed- or sun elevation times) so it is not too obivious that it is a programmed scheme.
Tip: Scheduler Card & Custom Component
Scheduler Card & Custom Component
In de mean time: a very nice addon for schedules that already features the ability to edit the schedule in de frontend is: Scheduler Card & Custom Component. It was developed by @neliss
For me Scheduler Card & Custom Component has a steep learning curve, but I currently prefer this custom component above the scheduler helpers. It is able to schedule on sun elevation times and has a fair kind of front end editing of the schedules. It lacks the weekly grid kind of schedule that the schedule helpers have.
If a state could be added to each of the blocks, it would work as a heating scheduler as well. ie click on each block and set the required temperature. The schedule entity state would not be on or off but the set temperature. If there is no block then it would be off.
The default could be left as on
It’s unlikely that any of that will be added to this very simple schedule helper as they can all already be used as triggers in your automation along with a state trigger for the schedule helper.
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I can see why you want this but I don’t think there is any interest in making it happen, especially changing the simple on/off state.
I’ve worked around my need for finer grained time control by only using the schedule on times to start my irrigation. It is turned off by a timer.
Still missing a simple way to edit the schedule from a dashboard card.
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You could edit the schedule file in \config.storage to your own times .
this worked for me.
I’m not sure who you are replying to but don’t do that. There is no need at all.
The storage registry is not supposed to be user editable and that is far more likely to end in disaster than just editing the times from the more-info pop-up, or using yaml.
It would be nice to be able to edit the times directly from a dashboard card rather than having to drill down into the more-info pop though. That is what this FR is about.
No longer.
I mean it is working, but since I can’t open my existing schedule via the gear icon nor create new ones.
I don’t know when it stopped working but it doesn’t in 2024.2.1
Sad 
This is a feature request not a help,topic. Start a new topic explaining your issues.
I don’t need help, I know why it is not working.
I was explaining to @Marcel-12 that even if it was working (and still does) to modify the core file, it is now an issue as it prevents creating new ones and/or see existing ones.
Solution is easy: remove the edited schedules and restart, using the existing features.
And those are the existing features that all of the voters, including myself, would like to see changed as described in OP.
Apologies but this sounded like you had an issue:
No hard feelings, it is ok, English is not my first language.
It was the consequences of what I did in core file, long before Marcel mentionned this workarround.
I did not notice that my shedule were screwed up until recently and wanted to warn him/her about the consequences of playing in the .storage directory
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Yeah I understand now. Again, apologies.
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Seems kinda straightforward, although I can see a number of users saying “well, why not do it my way?” …as they do right now because we’re stuck with 30 minute increments.
I am the IT support for a small dance school. All of their lights are controlled by automations, with a couple of “switchboxes” they can use to override the most common things they might want to in logical blocks. Such as turn on all the colored lights in classroom “A” for an impromptu private lesson (which is happening right now).
A button like this would be very useful to the teachers if they decide to extend a class - If a single button could be used to change the “off” time for a scheduled period, they wouldn’t have to pull up an app or webpage and click through the UI and hope they find the right schedule to change or text me to make the change, which they do often enough to make me want this feature. This kind of situation would require the ability to change a schedule programmatically. The teachers are dancers, not makers, not experimenters, not IT pros. I was hired so that they didn’t have to learn any of this stuff other than what single, physical button to push to turn the lights on and off. They frankly had a hard time making sure the open sign was turned on and off at open and close ;-|
I would be using schedules for the bulk of the automation if they could be more granular. We need the lights to turn on in a classroom five minutes before the class starts and off five to fifteen minutes after the class ends (depending on which class it is). Creating a timer that waits 25 minutes after it’s triggered at :30 so it can perform a task at :55 is very obviously a workaround to make the tool perform as if it were capable of doing what the user needs it to do.
For the love of all that is holy, don’t fix one problem with granularity (30 minute blocks) by making it just slightly more granular (15 minutes), which simply perpetuates the problem. Take it all the way - it sounds to me like one minute increments is the most granular you can make it without having to make upstream changes. As I mentioned, my use case needs 5 minutes. Sure, make the drag feature in the UI work in 15 or 30 minute increments, but allow the user to click/tap on the scheduled block to access more granular control. I was floored when I saw the only option on tap/click is to delete the block.
The issue with that is the difficulty of using the UI to set schedules, particularly on mobile devices.
I am new to this so my suggestion may just be a grain of salt, but one thing I wanted to replicate with schedule is how a simple plug have these On/Off setup. All you do is pick day/time for on and off trigger effectively creating your schedule. Or, like other similar tool that show you a week, and you pick time for event and they code what each event would be.
Now this schedule is simpler with on/off trigger and it is a fine starting point. But I immediately bumped into the 30 minutes wall. I was like there is no way an automation tool does not offer more precision. I mean if we are all about trying to be energy efficient, forcing something to start up to 29 minutes too early or run for up to another 29 minutes than intended is not good enough.
Then it struck me, that everywhere you should be able go to the YAML code and make necessary adjustment. But here that is not possible? I do not see the option in the UI and started some research (ended here too) and seems I need to fiddle with configuration file and we are saying this is not done because it cannot be done nicely on mobile? I am pretty sure editing a text config file on mobile is not better.
With that said, how about some drop-down where you pick initial granularity. So mobile can have 15, 30 mins, or 1 hour even if that allow to quickly set something up. Then on PC or Web you can use the 1 minutes if needed. That would be a starting point and the visual is already there to drag the elements. Maybe add a speed element so the further up/down you are you move fast and slow down as you get close to the bar allowing to minute adjustment. Kind of like scrolling in a large spreadsheet file. (But I solving here).
But at the very least please make it easy to access the results from the UI setup into some table or YAML code so we can tweak it exactly. That way even if you leave the UI set to 30 minute (untouched) we can do the general setup than go in the code right there and change 7:30 to 7:31 or 7:26 or whatever is required.
Thanks.
Zak