I believe you ānailed itā in this commend, Most/Many People in here maybe start with a light-bulb, in a brand-app (a no-brainer ) sorry for my wording , then they buy a camera, another brand, also running fine in their brand-appā¦ and so it goes
Then some people want to ātake it to a higher levelā
At this point they are capable of Google, find and install i.e HA , basically without reading many lines of info/guidance.
And as you mention, They still Just wanna go from A to B, As Quickly as possible, And They Donāt āSettleā, with their Light-bulb and Camera, conveniently, Now in same App.( They could have chosen Google-Home )
And as They didnāt had to read much , nor spend alot of time initially to get from A (2 devices in 2 Brand-Apps) , To B, An Opensource Project, where they can combine their 2 Device, and Alot more cool stuff.
Here the reality might ācatch upā for many People.
- they donāt have the required knowledge/experience.
- They still think/hope they can Move On, from B to C, without reading ( To much, As quickly as Possible ), either they donāt have time or the patience for that, and/ or they donāt understand what they are reading( And they forgot all about Search, And Google, which they initially had to use to get started" , or they end up in a āhopeless/frustratingā state, after reading the first 5 hits. (without finding āa buttonā to fix their problem)
Then next stage is, they either Sign Up here or joining some of the other HA-Forums, which ever one they first encounter.
And they keep on with their same deep rooted behavior/strategies, Donāt read, Donāt Search, Give Up after 3-5 attempts, in worse case , Blame on HA and everyone else
Some People reflect , realize their either short comings, lack of time, or the fact that itās not a commercial-brand phone app they installed on their Hardware ( To use HA Phone APP, for controlling their Various Devices )
Some find/but yet donāt realize they are deep into a constant changing(Updating/Upgrading) world, which they have never had any interest/knowledge in. A world where one Have To Read, Have to Google, Have to Test, again, and again ā¦ and again
So what do they Expect when signing up to i.e a Forum/Community like this ?
Finding People with same interests, use-cases, setup, personality, behavior ?
Finding People with more time( to search/test/troubleshooting for them).
Finding more experienced People, with time , which hungers to provide them with a āperfectā solution to their specific use-case/setup hardware etc. etc. ( Help, i canāt access my HA, it all started yesterday.
Fact is NONE of the basic factors/info is Very Often never even mention initially when people Post a Topic or Question, Because they Didnāt āfound timeā Or G.A.S Reading the very first post, in the Forum, Reading Guide Lines, Reading HA-Docs ( Number 2 in the Top Meny, Not hard to find ) (1. Integrations(docs-examples of the specific integration) 2. Docs( Alot of exaples/guidlines)/other Guides)As well as the Very First Topic(Post) in the Forum isnāt
I Respect you have your shared amount of time available for your interest, as well as your Reflections(which many people lacks)
I think this Topic started as a āshout outā caused by the hopelessly repeated questions/behavior, spite above DOCS, And First Post
How to help us help you - or How to ask a good question.
So saying āSo give the question askers a breakā is ofcause an valid answer
Question remains thou ā¦ HOW ? ā¦ And this is what this Topic Originally was about( Please read some of the āout-comeā of this Topic !( docs-examples/guidlines)/other Guides) to help People, Made by People Who have/spend probably more time here, than on ones own system( Free of charge)
OBS: itās in the Social Category Only ! ā¦ other-vice you might have seen āstrongerā opinions, do to the ārelaxedā off-topic subject discussed here as well