Why is it so complex and difficult to install and maintain HomeAssistant?

Winner! That’s the expected answer :rofl: in just seconds.

Maybe i will assist in the future. But this means i have build and aquire the knowledge to contribute…

I’ am not complaining here. But it should be possible to say: he’s that does not work without doing the work on myself (because of not capable).

I think lot’s of things are really great, but a system like HA is only worth half without a good documentation.


Funny, I’ve also worked full-time in IT for nearly 30 years though I’m just starting with HomeAssistant. I’m confident I’ll eventually figure things out but I would figure that after all these years there would be some good startup guides.

Not a complaint, love the product. But it’s a reasonable request from the first poster as there is no reason to reinvent the wheel if someone has put some general tips together for us newbies.


Since you are expert in Linux then you should go running supervised version. Its very stable and best of all you get supervised official version. I’m running that version without any problem.

I wrote an article to quickly install it. https://krdesigns.com/articles/installation-home-assistant-with-supervisor-on-debian-10

I also made a bash script to assist installation https://github.com/tirtadji-com/rpi_debian_ha_supervised


in your case, you have the right configuration.

The advantage of a small part of hardware (Raspberry or eventually a NUC, also a good idea ;)) is that you can let it live his life on itw own somewhere in a hidden place :wink:
You transformed your laptop in a “server”, for the rest, you have done the right choci :slight_smile:

Kind regards

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you are 100% right :slight_smile:
I just downloaded the latest OS Version from the Raspberry official site.
I never understood why we need to change product naming convention.

I’ll have a try to Debian for Raspberry.
Thanks for that precision.

Kind regards,

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Here’s a few…



I think we have a similar experience on computer world, and I’m not an adept of the “click and go”.

I indeed look for the flexibility, but even more for reliability. I’m an old guy, and machine have to totally under human control, not the reverse :wink: reason why I want full and total control of my environments, even more on such one, which may have impact on my privacy, if not correctly secured.

That’s why I bought a Raspberry 4 - 8GB and an USB-3 SSD of 1TB.
That will make the system faster and also reliable.

My current config does not allow me to update the server, there are some errors somewhere.
Bref, I’ll save my current config parameters and restart from scratch.

Debian interest me, as I get full control on the security parameters and monitoring, the “all-in-one” also, but the security eventual issues make me dubious … :roll_eyes:

But your arguments are also valuable, … :smiley:

Kind regards,


My HA is running since Feb-2020 (hassos_rpi4-3.11.img.gz) on Hassio (in test mode, just playing with one light), only one year old !

It does not seem to be possible to upgrade to that “new HomeAssistant OS”.
This is not fair, at least for such an environment that has to be used by “dummy people”, once installed.

For some configurations (ZigBee or …) you need to install a MQTT server.
If you have the Raspberry installed with “Home Assistant OS”, you can’t install anything else on that system, thus, you need another one for tools like MQTT, …
Why not having everything under one main platform and managing it using HA ?


There are addons available in hassos for mqqt ZigBee etc.
I would politely suggest that you do a bit more reading of some of the links that have been shared.
The info you are.looking for is in them

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I have an experience of … 40 years now (soooo long).
Your summary is just perfect.

I love HA possibilities, but not the way that some love to complicate it.

Reason why I look for a “HA for dummies” guide :slight_smile:

“What is well understood is well explained”. (a professor told me that during my final exam, and, thanks to that phrase, I outcome).

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I’m more a Windows guy, but also knowledgeable in Linux world (my real world was OpenVMS).
I’ll have a try on your technique.


Kind regards


Yes I will do :slight_smile:

HA is a powerful product, reason why I’m still testing it and not Jeedom nor Domoticz anymore.
I just want to find the right and most of all, reliable way to manage it.

I really hate (40 years in IT) products that change naming convention, way of working, … every version.

Thanks for your advices.


Hi Guys,

I want to thank ALL of you for the positive ideas, advises, … on this subject.

It is not a complain about HA, which is a really good product, just a request for help :slight_smile:

I love the positive reaction of HomeTrainee.

I want to go further with HA (even on a NUC, why not), but on a dedicated and autonome server (Raspberry or NUC).
I’ll follow your advices and listen for the eventually next one.

Kind regards

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I have installed HassOS using downloaded vm image on hyper-v.
It has been running ‘out-of-the-box’ now for 1.5 years receiving frequent updates on core, os and supervisor. I have not added/touched any configuration on the OS itself…(more a MS person myself)
Installed MQTT as well as some other add-on by means of supervisor.

And regarding privacy…well it is open source and I doubt I alone can make it more secure then the current people working on it.
I even think I would mess it up as I am not that familiar with Linux.
Furthermore I figured this community is so big with so many experienced coders, the chance that privacy is seriously affected due to bad coding is really small. (however, a breach was found and patched not so long ago
I think my local network configuration is just as important to secure privacy.


you are probably right, but, as old IT man, I love to have total control on what I manage.
I’m also more MS than Linux guy (I started and never stopped since v 3.0 of Windows :smiley: very loooong time ago).
On my Hassio Raspberry, I tried to plugin my Raspbee but it has never been recognized (by the Raspberry itself or by Hassio … I really don’t know, as it is a black box).
Restarting HA on my Hassio (Raspberry Pi 4 - 4GB) takes many minutes.
I just have 10 devices (add-ons) connected mainly Z-Wave.

That means in case of power failure, I can’t use light … during 5 to 10 minutes.
Not acceptable for me, and certainly not for my wife :smiley:

Playing with enforcing my local network security, I disconnect network devices often (tests purposes) … I don’t have the control on the way HA tries to reconnect to the network (Wifi).

For me, a down time of less than 30 seconds is acceptable, more than 1 minute, is not !
Raspberry replies to ping in less than 6 seconds.
This means HA (on my current environment) takes minutes to become available without lot of devices.

I may have a configuration problem on my installation, but all the tests I run are OK.


you mean 6 milliseconds?


No, after a power failure or reboot, the Raspberry comes up after less than 6 seconds :wink:


Just try my method and you will have 100% control over HA. In my case your best friends is Portainer to controlled all your docker images

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So many valuable infos in such a short period !

YES, I will :smiling_face_with_three_hearts:


My Docker Central hahahahaha

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