Why is the backup system built into core and not an addon?

By current I meant new one. Thank you for pointing it out.

The whole discussion is about including cloud and forced encryption to the core.
I propose to move this very functionality to an extension.

I can see this thread is no different from the usual. Lets play nice please.

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Playing nice in different countries means different things. Just saying.

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Not everybody wants to use a supervised installation.
I’m running my three instances as home assistant containers for my reasons that i don’t want to elaborate here. But i would be excluded from the new backup system, when the developers would follow your suggestion.

I understand.
But you consciously decided to go without a supervisor. This way you decided that you will get no features that don’t belong to the core.
BTW this way your HA is already stripped of built-in backups (I mean those ones available for a long time). Isn’t it?

Yes, i decided to go that route. But the new backup system will belong to the core and i appreciate that, as it opens new options .
No, i’m not stripped of the built-in backups. I can call this builtin backup by calling the action backup.create, as written before.
I can now also use the new backup system, if i want to use it, by configuring the automatic backup system and i’m testing it already on one of my systems.
I can make a backup by triggering the backup from Settings->System->Backup and push the “+Backup Now” button in the lower right corner.
In either case i will get an encrypted backup on the local file system.
An option to restore a backup is still missing and i would have to do it manually.

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My fault then. For some reason I was thinking it’s the supervisor’s feature.

Some people hallucinate opinions so easily, one has to wonder how few billion parameters they’re running. :joy:

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You can (at least you should) vote for your feature request! :star_struck:

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Maybe they are not convinced themselves about it…

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I’m convinced enough about system modularity.
I’m not convinced that number of votes influences anything.

The fact that key backup functionality is built-in doesn’t change that. At least schedulling, encrypting should be independent.

BTW I’m not a creator of this thread (Petro did that), this is why I wasn’t aware enough about vote option.