WTH are logs so difficult to get?

[blunova (Ariana)]

@tom_l

Settings → System → Logs is not what you are after?

Those only show a very short time period. I’m looking for the longer-term logs described here:

How to get to your log after restart/restore

In a thread recently I was reminded that most HA users operate under the assumption that their log is gone as soon as HA is restarted and if they forget to back it up before fixing whatever problem they encountered they can never get back to it. This actually isn’t true. The file /config/home-assistant.log is wiped clean every restart but that’s not actually your log, that’s just a text file that Home Assistant replicates your log to. In a supervised or HAOS deployment your real log is the syst…