And some things get missed, that’s why bugs exist.
Because that wasn’t part of the original design intention. The original design intention of a time format option was for non-relative time stamps.
not sure why we are mixing time format here.
I understand the relative time as something introduced independently to time format. Time format applies only in the case of absolute time.
There are two problems
- no option to choose between absolute and relative.
- no alternate format (ie hover)
Both of them relate to the “displaying the relative time” feature.
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Yes, but you keep hammering “Why is this incomplete functionality” when the only functionality that was added to change time format was specifically designed to target time stamps not relative times. That’s why it’s relevant.
you probably take displaying time on FE as a single feature.
I’m considering them as two separate ones. While one of them didn’t left space for another.
IMO relative time displaying should never be accepted in this form. Then it would cause further consequences
each feature would be compartmentalized, that’s typically how PRs work. It seem’s you’re trying to relate this to an agile story. Which simply doesn’t exist in a volunteer environment. It sometimes exists when there’s a discussion about it in architecture.
I understand. But again: relative time PR should include an option to show absolute time; from the beginning.
Without it, the PR shouldn’t be accepted as incomplete and breaking change (removal of the previous way of time presentation)
Again, that wasn’t part of the original scope when relative time was added. Sorry, but that’s how it was when it was added. The original implementation was when only entities card existed. That’s how old the feature is. Lovelace didn’t even exist.
And the original tooltip was designed to only show last_changed and last_updated. There was nothing in the scope about optionally changing it’s display. It was simply: Display this information in the tool tip. Does that mean the feature isn’t fully fleshed out? No, it just means that the person added what they wanted to see, which was that information.
Do you mean that relative time is in HA since HA beginning?
I could bet the absolute time display has been replaced with relative one (or appeared in this form in new places) about 3 years ago
Yes, it was implemented long ago.
You’re thinking of timestamp sensors being added.
to put it into perspective, the want/need for relative time dates as far back as may 10th 2016
Unfortunately any PRs for the original UI are lost when lovelace was created.