2023.3: Dialogs!

Hello everyone,

I’m having trouble with my Tuya smart heating thermostats that were connected to ZHA via the Sonoff Zigbee stick. After upgrading to version 2023.3.1, they are no longer reachable, even after downgrading to 2023.2.5.

The Zigbee stick I’m using is from Sonoff and here are some additional information about it:
DEVLINKS: >-
/dev/serial/by-id/usb-Silicon_Labs_Sonoff_Zigbee_3.0_USB_Dongle_Plus_0001-if00-port0
/dev/serial/by-path/platform-fd500000.pcie-pci-0000:01:00.0-usb-0:1.4:1.0-port0

If you spent time looking at other HA communities: Reddit, Facebook, Discord, you’d find that many of the changes are well received. Typically veterans who don’t like change are the most vocal about pretty much anything. And every release, it’s always the same 10 people on these forums beating <flavor of the month “issue”> to death. At some point, you roll your eyes and move on when you see the same person with a new <flavor of the month “issue”> complaint.

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It this automatically means that all these changes are OK.
There is one thing which you may be have not noticed: from 100 changes some changes may be not good; criticizing 1 change does not mean that other 99 changes are not good enough.
Critics = engine of progress.

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No, but many of these “issues” are over inflated. Like this history/ more info one. It’s something that I personally could take or leave. History on a switch or light is basically meaningless by itself. I have no use for it. However the history of all the lights/switches in an area that contains the history for my automations and motion sensors… now that has meaning. And I’ll go to the history tab and view that data every time over a single items history.

From what I remember, the only loss we have here is history, and we gained an extra click for the ‘related entities’. However configuration was locked behind one click before. So, to me, this change is lateral, and it got rid of those stupid sliders on mobile. The large one is much better.

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Honestly, I do not use more-info, almost at all.
Usually I go directly to Dev tools and History.
But I am absolutely sure that more-info should provide a detailed info.
There are many places in HA which I never use, like “helpers via ui”, “automations via Ui” etc.

Probably my dashboard may be looking as cluttered for someone since I show graphs for almost each entity, just to exclude a need to open more info

I agree Brad,

Im sure some ppl find the new entity dialogs nice - specially if they like what google home looked like back in the day :rofl:.

But But But, more clicks, huge dialogs on windwos, no way of seeing history with one click (this is the worst one for me so far). This is sooo not-needed (if u ask me at least).

If anybody finds a way to revert im all ears. The best would properly be to make it optionable - if u like the fancy ‘google’ like design or the (good) ole ha version.

br

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Same here. Some of my dashboards are mangled up. Essentially the history graphs. I did not had any migration issues.

@system
Do you take criticism seriously… / Do you read it?
For ex. about new dialogs / big ass buttons (on phone nice, on pc not so nice) :slight_smile:

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Please don’t use that tag unless you are reporting forum issues.

My core installation says that release isn’t available when I type:
pip3 install homeassistant==2023.3.1

Output is ERROR: No matching distribution found for homeassistant==2023.3.1

Any idea of the reason?

Yes, I think that change is usefull but for basic users of my Home is perfect new dialogs, for me is better old. I would like to choose for other users nad for me, what dialog I shows them.

@piitaya Is possible to think about it?

I like the new dialogs, even on the pc. It gives a cleaner look and is more intuitive to use.
The only thing i would like to be changed, is to swap the locations of “Settings” and “Device info” . Reason: Home Assistent is in transition phase towards a device-focussed approach. On average, “Device info” will give end-users more often what they are looking for (entity settings is usually not what you’re looking for as an end-user).

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Please, how did you managed to replace the default graph with history-explorer-card in the more info dialog?

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It’s in the History Explorer Card docs: https://github.com/alexarch21/history-explorer-card#overriding-the-ha-more-info-history

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To be fair, I kinda still need to write that part of the docs :wink:

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Just wanted to say that as a user since v 0.2 something, I am always amazed at the continued improvement and stability of HA. I think the development team continues to do an amazing job!

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see
New interactive history explorer custom card - Share your Projects! - Home Assistant Community (home-assistant.io)

Weird, I restarted HA and I had to do this again (change decimals back and forth) for W instead of kW to reappear.

It’s been 78 minutes already, and database upgrade is still not complete.
mariadb process taking 100% CPU time.

I had run mysqldump earlier and gave me a dump of 669166179 so it’s not that big of a database.

mariadb is running on a quad-core 3.4GHz Intel. How long is this expected to take ?

May be purge recorder , that would remove lot of entries ?