It’s not a step back. The group entities (i.e. group.abc) still show the entity list.
The new groups, light.group_xyz, etc, do not have the ability to show the entity list (and never have had this ability). That does not mean this will not come in the future. Just realize that the functionality was not taken away, it still exists. It just hasn’t been added to the new groups.
Right, but it never showed the entities before. Only old school groups showed the entity list (and still do)
I mean entities like this, here im using the old style group. But this have a problem that changeing color doesn’t work, it shows blank page
That’s not an old style group. That’s a light group or a template light.
I was using this way to control lights, all together, while it shows individual lights entities for quick toggle. How to use the old groups then.
You can tell what style it is by the domain.
e.g. old style groups will have an entity_id of group.all_lights
the new style groups will show up as a light. e.g. light.all_lights.
Just keep in mind that if you use an old style group, you will not have light controls.
EDIT: Old style groups are yaml only, they haven’t changed or been updated in years at this point.
Appreciate your replies. I was using old lights group like this:
Group.living_room_lights
Which does have lights control and shows entities for quick toggles. (After 2023.3 no longer control color and temp)
I’ve tried the new lights group like this:
Light.living_room_lights (created in helpers)
Which does control lights, but doesn’t shows entities in the same view for quick toggles.
So how to use something that control lights and shows the entities in that group for quick toggles. Is that not possible anymore?
I don’t believe you can get both in the same view outside of old school groups. To be honest, I’m very surprised there was even a light control for old school groups. I’ve never made an old school group comprised of just lights.
There actually was lights control 
, I’ve been using it like this since i started using home assistant a year ago.
Is it possible to implement something like this in the new releases? So light.group would show the entities ilke this:
That would be really helpful.
Just noticed that there is no any name displayed for a input_boolean helper:
It is only displayed for helpers:
– created in UI;
– or created in yaml but with “friendly_name” defined:
Hi,
I tried to find changelog entry that could explain behavior I’m noticing after upgrading from 2023.3.5 to 2023.3.6.
I receive sensor values over MQTT from Tasmota device. HA is acting as MQTT broker with mosquitto integration.
Sensor values are received with 10 second interval and I can confirm this with MQTT explorer on broker.
Until version 2023.3.5 sensor values were stored in HA database every 10 seconds, even value didn’t change.
After upgrading to 2023.3.6 sensor value is stored in database only if it changes.
What change caused this behavior and could this be fixed so that all values received would be stored in database?
This can be seen also on HA sensor view. It now says for example “1 minute ago” rather than refreshing every 10 seconds as before.
Hi, is there a way how to revert “dialogs” to previous version? I find them totally confusing and counterproductive. For example when I want to change light color temperature I have to open the light and then click on the color palette and then I can change the color. It is much slower approach then with previous versions.
The same with history - I liked seein the history of the switch right on the page when I opened it. Now I have to open the switch and search tiny button “history” and here it is.
Slower and less transparent.
I would understand this to be available as na option primary for wear (watches) but it makes no sense for desktop or mobile. I don’t think I am the only one that would appreciate a switch between old and new style. Pretty please? 
THIS^
I find the new dialog really awful.
The text based tabs were perfect as they were and easy to navigate from one to another, now i have to click back to go from one to the other.
Also why would i need that big of a slider? I really liked the old thin horizontal slider.
Also if having an RGB lamp i have to go into a separate menu to change color… what a god-awful decision to make 
Also for my new ikea air cleaner i cant select the builtin presets as i could before, which just completely throws me off. now theres a standby icon, what does that do? i really dislike having icons as a complete substitute for text.
sure icons are nice to have… as a compliment for the text for easier recognition, but icons dont tell you exactly what the do.
So please give us, that want the old UI back, the option to actually use it 
yes, the new more-info seems like regression. You press a switch in an entity card only to show the same switch larger. Now there is a second click involved to get the actual useful information, namely the history. I can’t seem to find an easy way to make the history view the default one.
Has anyone found a way to revert back to the old, more useful light dialogues? Really sick of the bad usability, additional clicks with the new light dialogs 
You would need to go back and restore a old back up or more. Hopefully you kept some, along with notes
Well, that would not be a sustainable solution, as it would mean you can never update HA again. I was rather hoping there would be something more along the line of a mod, plugin, integration etc.
Samaba add-on will allow you to access the backup directory to offload backups. You can add notations to the file descriptor then. It is what I use. Just in case the EMAC or the SSD start having issues.
