2023.9: New climate entity dialogs, lots of tile features, and template sensors from the UI!

[parautenbach (Pieter Rautenbach)]

@Gilean

so config check doesn’t notice those I think

It definitely does.

[Technoholic84]

Sorry if not the right place for this but I’ve narrowed down my problem to only be happening on 2023.9 as per this thread

Zigbee smart plugs going unavailable after migrating to new system

Been using HA with these Zigbee smart plugs flawlessly for a while. Decided to move my HA installation to a new server. All went well, backup and direct restore, all hardware in the same location, Sonoff zigbee transceiver hasn’t moved. And everything works perfectly except all 4 smart plugs I have just randomly become unavailable, so far 1-2 times a day. And when they come back, they turn off if they were previously on. Any idea why this could be, suddenly after a migration when nothing else h…

After reverting to 2023.8.4 the problem goes away. Any idea on this anyone?

Thanks

[KRende]

2023.9.3 broke several things for me even after several complete reboots:

Lost Switchbot entities as “unavailable” that were working, BlueTooth scanner failure
Lost Settings / System / Backups as “Troubleshooting”
Lost Settings / Add-Ons as “Troubleshooting”
Lost Node Red, Terminal, File Editor, eWeLink Smart Home, ESPHome, etc. as “Unable to load the panel source: /api/hassio/app/entrypoint.js”

I’m just a rookie so I’ll have to read up on issues and how to resolve them.

[Joao-Sousa-71 (Joao Sousa)]

The best backup is a copy of the “config” folder at least in the container installation.

[GaTechThomas (Thomas Lunsford)]

The new climate widget is a problematic UX. It took approximately 10 seconds after updating to the new version before my swipe to scroll the page to accidentally changed the temperature setting from 71 F to 65 F (the minimum cooling temperature).

Do we have the option to use a non-graphical option so that we can avoid this undesirable user experience?

[parautenbach (Pieter Rautenbach)]

Try a plain entity card (note the singular).

[Sock (Josh)]

Upgrading from 2023.9.2 → 2023.9.3 greatly increased CPU usage. I’ve tried rebooting with no change. Anyone else experiencing the same?

[KennethLavrsen]

I do not run any heavy load addons. I have all my zwave and zigbee and mqtt running on separate server so my CPU usage is mainly just Home Assistant itself.

My CPU on a Home Assistant Blue hardware runs at a 2-5% CPU load. Always did. Restarting HA only restarts the HA container but other Addons keep running. Either reboot the host or try to stop and start each Addon one by one while monitoring the CPU load. That will also give you a datapoint for later debug. A high load for hours can happen when the database has to be reformatted. That normally does not happen at a patch release.

Also note that in a terminal session with HA you have htop available which can show if specific task is insane

[Sock (Josh)]

Thanks for the info. My HA normally runs about 5-7% CPU. I have done a restart of the host with no change. I’ll start disabling add-ons to see what I can find there.

Update: I just noticed that as of about 15 minutes ago, the CPU has returned to a normal level (5-7%). I haven’t changed anything.

[tom_l]

No change in CPU utilisation here.

Try disabling your 3rd party integrations one by one and see if that identifies the culprit.

[paddy0174 (Patrick)]

So all the things that needed to be done have now finished. That’s the problem with these restarts - you constantly break the tasks running, and HA needs to start a new run every time… I know, I know, this is kind of a chicken egg problem, because how would you know to let your install run for hours with a high load…

I had this a few times, and for now, I’ll just let me install/update run, even with higher loads and wait for at least one week. If nothing changes, it’s early enough to ask, if the load goes down, even mariadb seems to be updated.

[Guff666 (Gareth Howell)]

Since updating 2 nodes to 2023.9.3 from 2023.8.4 I’ve lost the sidebar. It’s set to auto-collapse and when I clip on cake, I get a blank sidebar. It’s Safari on a Mac if this helps.

[tom_l]

Have you tried clearing your web browser cache?

[Guff666 (Gareth Howell)]

I’m hesitant to do that as I have so many sites in the cache. However, I guess I’ll have to - unless somebody knows how to clear a single site’s caches.

UPDATE: Clearing the cache made no difference. A private window gives the same result

FWIW: It’s OK on Firefox

[parautenbach (Pieter Rautenbach)]

@Guff666

unless somebody knows how to clear a single site’s caches.

For next time: you can open the browser’s dev tools and disable the cache for that page. Then reload, re-enable and close the dev window.

If it’s a cookie-related issue you can selectively clear cookies too. Google for your specific browser’s instructions.

[Guff666 (Gareth Howell)]

Just to close this off. I found that there was a content blocker preventing the display of the sidebar. No idea where it came from though.

In addition to clearing the browser cache, I needed (in Safari) to reload the page without content blockers. It’s an option on the View menu if there is a blocker in place.

[JoeKing (Joe)]

Hi guys,
Can this be used on a dashboard directly?

[tom_l]

Yes when 2023.12 is released (first Wednesday of the month).

[JoeKing (Joe)]

Yeah! Lovin’ it!

[GITM (Rik)]

Question,

HA as a line-animation in the background of the login screen.
I have tried searching for the name of the animation, I must not be using the correct queries because I haven’t been able to find anything.

Thank you very much in advance!