Ok, does it mean, that after change of entity name, an integration which created it is still able to refer it by its original name? while the rest of the system (Energy dashboard) uses the new name?
Integrations donât know entity_idâs, they create the object that HA stores in the state machine. So for all intents and purposes, nothing is changing.
If youâre asking about integrations where a user chooses a source entity, that still works because that system uses config entries first, then entity_id second. So if the entity has a config entry, you can rename things (entity_id) to your hearts content and all entities that use it as a source will be fine.
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Is there any documentation on how to specify a device as the total home power consumption meter?
itâs the one(s) you specify under " Grid consumption" on the energy dashboard, no?
Is there any documentation on how to specify a device as the total home power consumption meter?
âConsumptionâ is generally not specified, itâs calculated. Energy dashboard allows you to define all the energy coming into your home (grid consumption, solar), and all the energy going out of your home (grid return).
Grid In + Solar - Grid Return = Total Home Consumption.
Or if you donât have solar, than simply Grid In = Consumption
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hey, does anybody have a clue why my tibber integration wonât work since this update? already tried reloading it, deactivated and activated it but it wonât work.
Thank you, but from the release notes I understood that if I have individual devices tracking grid consumption and in addition have a global grid consumption meter (e.g. the house meter), then the dashboard would now show how much grid consumption is not being individually monitored.
So with no solar and hence no return, all meters monitor consumption.
Or did I misunderstand the release notes?
We canât all have energy tracking for every device, and if you have whole-home energy tracking (like a smart meter or something more DIY) the updated graph will calculate the difference and show your homeâs untracked usage.
I think you are somewhat misunderstand the release notes alrightâŚ
A previous release allowed you specific individual devices that are consuming electricityâŚeg I use it for a Water Heater, others use for Washing Machines, Lights, Ovens, etcâŚand show these in a separate graph on the Energy Dasjboard
This release builds on that by showing the total consumption (already known from a properly setup Energy Dashboard) vs the individually tracked consumption (eg my Water Heater) and then displays the âdifferenceâ as untracked consumptionâŚdoes that make sense now
PS - you can edit a post in these forums without having to delete and post again
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I love the fact I can have my Map card the entire width of my screen and still have badges at the top. Thanks very much to all that contributed.
See my reply earlier in the thread
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The total consumption cannot be known unless you have devices for all consumers. If that were the case, there would be no âdifferenceâ.
So to have a difference you need one device that actually tracks the mains. So one device like the energy meter that sees the consumption of your entire house and then compares it to the sum of all individual devices.
So that one device that sees all must somehow be identified to be that âmainâ device. Otherwise the dashboard would not know who is reporting the total to compare the individuals to.
It also says so in my previous quote
whole-home energy tracking (like a smart meter or something more DIY)
So, since the âwhole-home trackerâ tracks a consumption and all individual devices track a consumption, none of them would be registered as âreturn to gridâ.
Essentially the new dashboard, accoding to the description, now knows who is the âwhole-home trackerâ. I would like to know how because I have been fake-assigning my âwhole-home trackerâ as return to grid so I can get a fake delta/difference.
P.S.: You can edit the response but you cannot âreply to postâ after the fact and I was replying to a post (to keep the reference alive in large blog threads).
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YeahâŚI hear youâŚ
AFAIK the original Energy Dashboard is based on us having a âfull consumptionâ sensor or calcâŚso whether thatâs direct import or solar vs battery vs export it doesnât really matterâŚas long as HA can calc the house consumption itâs happyâŚ
Think of the new feature in the Sept 24 release as a something leveraging off the already known house consumptionâŚso you tell it what you already know is being consumed via individual sensors and it tells you the rest is unknownâŚitâs a âbells and whistlesâ type feature (nothing wrong with it but not really telling you anything you donât know already)
PSâŚI see what you mean there 
âŚyou can tag someone in, but not replyâŚ
So you think I need to continue to fake-return in order to see the difference between whole-house and individual devices?
(I can tag in, but I know that a lot of people, especially devs do not like to be tagged. Some consider it rude or pushy although it is not meant that way )
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Iâm still kind of confused about what your setup is.
If you have whole house consumption sensor at your meter or electrical panel, that would go in the âGrid Consumptionâ section under Electricity Grid, this is your âmainâ sensor that you speak of.
Then you put the individual devices you monitor under individual devices.
Untracked is automatically calculated as the difference between the sum of the individual devices, and the total house consumption, which in your case is just grid consumption.
Beyond that Iâm a little puzzled what youâre confused about, or why you have âfake-returnâ. Hope that helps?
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Okay, since the addition of the Individual devices detail usage, my approach is less relevant.
I always wanted to see the individual devices and, in direct comparison, the total consumption. That way I can easily see from e.g. Energy distribution how much my total was and how much the tracked devices were.
(For that I had to set whole-home meter to grid return and individuals to grid consumption or vice versa).
With Individual devices detail usage I do not see the daily total difference but at least I see the hourly difference.
So, maybe a teeeeny tiny feature request:
In the Energy distributionâs little Grid bubble, could it read in brackets the sum of individual devices?
How do you permanently remove the untracked consumption from the individual devices graphs under Energy, I know you can temporally. disable it but it comes back on the next HA update
Loving the untracked energy feature. Took a little while to figure out which sensor I needed to use for consumption. Does a great job of highlighting how much additional monitoring I need to put in place. Thanks to the folks who worked on this, really appreciated!
I can confirm the issues, my NS Panel Pro gets stuck in a loop whenever I open a dashboard that is set up as âsectionsâ. Other dashboards seem to work normal. Maybe this was caused with release 2024.9? If I remember correctly, everything was working fine in 2024.8.
Anyone with any ideas regarding this issue?