2025.2 Beta Backup changes

Mariusthvdb · January 30, 2025, 4:27pm

thx

yes we can click the button ‘Create backup now’, and have this smal config flow ending with the location selection

Didnt see that possibility yet in the actions tab of the dev tools.

would be fine by me btw, set a generic backup system in the UI, (and leave out the Synology there) and next create a small automation that runs that action daily at the users time of choice.

snemarch · January 30, 2025, 4:29pm

Great, thundering herd already handled, then!

I’ll slump back on the couch, and return once the fever has subsided

Mariusthvdb · January 30, 2025, 4:33pm

haha, yes, take care, you’re not alone. We have an official flu epidemic going on right now…

MissyQ · January 30, 2025, 6:40pm

For your example/situation, the best option would be to just set up a custom time it runs instead of the system optimal time. It does work as I expected, which means if you would like to have it go when your Synology is on you’ll need to configure all of them to do the same.

I don’t think that’s exactly what you want, so I believe that this may be something for a FR.

danieldeni · January 30, 2025, 9:02pm

The linking has been fixed on 2025.2.0b2 .

Edwin_D · January 30, 2025, 9:27pm

Yep, connecting works now.

danieldeni · January 30, 2025, 9:45pm

Yeah, linking now works, and if I check in my OneDrive folder the folders are created in /Apps/Home Assistant/ and the backup is also uploaded. HA gives an error about the upload failing though.

github.com/home-assistant/core

2025.2.0b2 One Drive Automatic backup fails

opened 08:48PM - 30 Jan 25 UTC

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integration: backup

### The problem Initiated an automatic backup One Drive failed. Local, local n…etwork and Google Drive succeeded Repeated 10 minutes later same failure. I'm able to access One Drive directly on my PC ![Image](https://github.com/user-attachments/assets/2e9ccd95-ded7-4f8b-b10d-ba14c2032184) ### What version of Home Assistant Core has the issue? 2025.2.0b2 ### What was the last working version of Home Assistant Core? 2025.2.0b1 ### What type of installation are you running? Home Assistant OS ### Integration causing the issue Backup ### Link to integration documentation on our website _No response_ ### Diagnostics information ``` Logger: homeassistant.components.backup Source: components/backup/manager.py:512 integration: Backup ([documentation](https://rc.home-assistant.io/integrations/backup), [issues](https://github.com/home-assistant/core/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22integration%3A+backup%22)) First occurred: 2:32:18 PM (1 occurrences) Last logged: 2:32:18 PM Unexpected error for onedrive.D378A3F5743D8717: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/lib/python3.13/site-packages/httpx/_transports/default.py", line 101, in map_httpcore_exceptions yield File "/usr/local/lib/python3.13/site-packages/httpx/_transports/default.py", line 394, in handle_async_request resp = await self._pool.handle_async_request(req) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/usr/local/lib/python3.13/site-packages/httpcore/_async/connection_pool.py", line 256, in handle_async_request raise exc from None File "/usr/local/lib/python3.13/site-packages/httpcore/_async/connection_pool.py", line 236, in handle_async_request response = await connection.handle_async_request( ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ pool_request.request ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ) ^ File "/usr/local/lib/python3.13/site-packages/httpcore/_async/connection.py", line 103, in handle_async_request return await self._connection.handle_async_request(request) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/usr/local/lib/python3.13/site-packages/httpcore/_async/http11.py", line 136, in handle_async_request raise exc File "/usr/local/lib/python3.13/site-packages/httpcore/_async/http11.py", line 106, in handle_async_request ) = await self._receive_response_headers(**kwargs) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/usr/local/lib/python3.13/site-packages/httpcore/_async/http11.py", line 177, in _receive_response_headers event = await self._receive_event(timeout=timeout) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/usr/local/lib/python3.13/site-packages/httpcore/_async/http11.py", line 217, in _receive_event data = await self._network_stream.read( ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ self.READ_NUM_BYTES, timeout=timeout ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ) ^ File "/usr/local/lib/python3.13/site-packages/httpcore/_backends/anyio.py", line 32, in read with map_exceptions(exc_map): ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^ File "/usr/local/lib/python3.13/contextlib.py", line 162, in __exit__ self.gen.throw(value) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~^^^^^^^ File "/usr/local/lib/python3.13/site-packages/httpcore/_exceptions.py", line 14, in map_exceptions raise to_exc(exc) from exc httpcore.ReadTimeout The above exception was the direct cause of the following exception: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/src/homeassistant/homeassistant/components/backup/manager.py", line 512, in upload_backup_to_agent await self.backup_agents[agent_id].async_upload_backup( ...<2 lines>... ) File "/usr/src/homeassistant/homeassistant/components/onedrive/backup.py", line 87, in wrapper return await func(self, *args, **kwargs) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/usr/src/homeassistant/homeassistant/components/onedrive/backup.py", line 172, in async_upload_backup await self._upload_file( upload_session.upload_url, await open_stream(), backup.size ) File "/usr/src/homeassistant/homeassistant/components/onedrive/backup.py", line 282, in _upload_file await async_upload( ...<3 lines>... ) File "/usr/src/homeassistant/homeassistant/components/onedrive/backup.py", line 264, in async_upload result = await adapter.send_async(info, LargeFileUploadSession, {}) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/usr/local/lib/python3.13/site-packages/kiota_http/httpx_request_adapter.py", line 186, in send_async response = await self.get_http_response_message(request_info, parent_span) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/usr/local/lib/python3.13/site-packages/kiota_http/httpx_request_adapter.py", line 602, in get_http_response_message resp = await self._http_client.send(request) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/usr/local/lib/python3.13/site-packages/httpx/_client.py", line 1629, in send response = await self._send_handling_auth( ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ...<4 lines>... ) ^ File "/usr/local/lib/python3.13/site-packages/httpx/_client.py", line 1657, in _send_handling_auth response = await self._send_handling_redirects( ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ...<3 lines>... ) ^ File "/usr/local/lib/python3.13/site-packages/httpx/_client.py", line 1694, in _send_handling_redirects response = await self._send_single_request(request) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/usr/local/lib/python3.13/site-packages/httpx/_client.py", line 1730, in _send_single_request response = await transport.handle_async_request(request) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/usr/local/lib/python3.13/site-packages/httpx/_transports/default.py", line 393, in handle_async_request with map_httpcore_exceptions(): ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~^^ File "/usr/local/lib/python3.13/contextlib.py", line 162, in __exit__ self.gen.throw(value) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~^^^^^^^ File "/usr/local/lib/python3.13/site-packages/httpx/_transports/default.py", line 118, in map_httpcore_exceptions raise mapped_exc(message) from exc httpx.ReadTimeout ``` ### Example YAML snippet ```yaml ``` ### Anything in the logs that might be useful for us? ```txt ``` ### Additional information _No response_

terminus · January 31, 2025, 8:32am

Thank you for fixing the backup naming convention!!

Mariusthvdb · January 31, 2025, 10:39am

wrote it up here Allow separate backup schedule per location

bkbartk · January 31, 2025, 10:49am

or do you want multiple automated backups to be scheduled, where you can specify the location per automatic backup,
but for instance also choose to select different add ons.

Mariusthvdb · January 31, 2025, 10:51am

personally I dont need that, and I figured to keep the request as simple as possible

suppose what you ask could/would be very relevant for others, so the might be worth the trouble of a separate FR indeed

the 2 features wouldnt hurt each other

Jcarlier · January 31, 2025, 10:58am

have you planned a backup on google drive?

Mariusthvdb · January 31, 2025, 10:59am

Jcarlier · January 31, 2025, 11:01am

on your 2025.2 Beta Backup changes - #42 by Mariusthvdb

i don’t find google drive

Mariusthvdb · January 31, 2025, 11:05am

@MissyQ Maybe a special request:

I believe it would be very practical to have the available core integrations for backup listed and linked in the main Backup documentation at Backup - Home Assistant

Onedrive, Google Drive and Synology come to mind, I am not sure if there are more (I only use these 3…)

Would this be something you could take to the docs team?

Mariusthvdb · January 31, 2025, 11:08am

o sorry, I didnt realize the ‘you’ in your post was ‘me’ I figured you spoke to the HA team/missy there

No I dont use Google in my core HA backup system. For now I use the amazing custom add-on by Stephen Beechen.

However, I plan to stop using Google for backups, and save me a few extra bucks for the required extra gb’s., now Ha core has all the options I would need.

Jcarlier · January 31, 2025, 11:18am

…save me a few extra bucks. .i get 15G disk space for free…sufficient for my partial backups (without the MEDIA directory)

mattius · January 31, 2025, 11:39am

Small request, Could this thread be pinned until the beta is complete?

bkbartk · January 31, 2025, 11:56am

@Mariusthvdb
is it possible to set retention per destination?
I mean, I have use for 100 local copies,
1 on NC cloud,
and 30 on onedrive.

or is it just 1 per external itegration

Mariusthvdb · January 31, 2025, 12:10pm

no, I believe we can set all the options, and assign several locations with those options.

retention is set for all locations you have selected in the automatic backups config.

but do join the beta and give it a test run yourself