2025.8 Beta week!

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A general reminder: Beta week is not designed to fully overhaul a new feature, but to identify bugs that may be introduced with the update.

If you have an issue, please let us know here! However, the developers are very active in the #beta channel of our Discord server during Beta - it’s good to hop in there if you can. To ensure things are addressed in a timely manner, be sure to also submit issues on GitHub in their proper space:

Here are this month’s Beta notes! July was a longer month meaning we were able to shove an extra week’s worth of work into it!

Here are some things that I think are noteworthy this release:

  • AI :clap: AI :clap: AI - with the introduction of sub-entries in 2025.7, we’re able to build off of that to release AI tasks and Suggest with AI. There’s also a new integration called OpenRouter with access to over 400 extra LLM models. :scream:
  • Control individual members of a group - the entity information dialog for light and cover groups now shows the individual members of that group. :ok_hand:
  • New integrations including OpenRouter as mentioned above, Ubiquiti UISP airOS, and a couple others. :eyes:
  • Noteworthy improvements to existing integrations - PlayStation Network got a ton of updates, Reolink gets more enhancements, OpenAI Conversation supports camera and file attachments (to go with AI Task), WiZ supports fans, SwitchBot Cloud also gained fan support, SmartThings added vacuum support, Pi-hole users can leverage API v6 functionality, and so much more.
  • We’ve had 9 integrations achieve new quality scale levels - Amazon Alexa Devices keeps moving up that list, but special congratulations to those who made it to Platinum status: AirGradient, Discovergy, EHEIM Digital, and Pegel Online. :tada:
  • Other noteworthy changes - a new absolute humidity device class was added, group management has been greatly improved, History Stats now includes a preview in the options flow, and more updates to the Template integration from the amazing @petro (if you use the Template integration, these changes are probably important to you!).

There is a hefty list of backward incompatible changes this release that some of you may want to know about - Apple TV, Ecovacs, Reolink, Templates, UniFi Protect, and Z-Wave are the big ones I’ll call out here, but there are more.

Build should already be available for y’all. :clap:t2: Happy testing, friends!

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wow this is empty still…

let me add my observations up to 2025.8.0b1

after an initial fluke with the new buttons without text, .1 fixed that, and we now have new buttons working as per new design.

Those still need some fixes here and there regarding their position and color setting

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but all in all, it seems ok. In Default theme that is.

If you have carefully curated themes, as many of us do, you’re stuck with really nasty color clashes, because of the introduction of

and

Ive asked for some explanation which semantics is used where, as currently it will take some effort to untangle that spaghetti of new theme variables… and do:

  1. So just set all of these core primary colors. And the semantics are build up on them
    --color-primary-05: #001721;
    --color-primary-10: #002e3e;
    --color-primary-20: #004156;
    --color-primary-30: #006787;
    --color-primary-40: #009ac7;
    --color-primary-50: #18bcf2;
    --color-primary-60: #37c8fd;
    --color-primary-70: #7bd4fb;
    --color-primary-80: #b9e6fc;
    --color-primary-90: #dff3fc;
    --color-primary-95: #eff9fe;
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This is the beginning of our design system. We just use it for buttons now. But when we hopefully sometime use it on most parts of the software it will be really cool.

This is only about looks :wink:

more serious trouble I experience with the new functionality of the group members on the more-info of grouped helpers. Lights and Covers show their members as tiles, which seems very cool indeed!

If it didn’t grind the interface to an almost standstill…
Interaction is very very laggy in my setup, even on helpers with only 2 or 3 members.
I have to manually reload the view returning from those more-info panels, otherwise I am stuck with

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Btw this also occurs on the other helper groups, as Ive documented in this issue more-info group functionality very slow and lagging interaction · Issue #26325 · home-assistant/frontend · GitHub

That’s mostly it for me, my use case doesnt benefit from the other changes in this release.
Although I do love the fact we can now add availability templates via the UI Helpers, thanks to Petro!

O, and 1 more titbit: use ha-button-radius in your themes to get rid of those rounded button blobs, my theme is squared mostly, so I set those to 0px, or more precisely I use:

    ha-card-border-radius: 0px
    ha-dialog-border-radius: var(--ha-card-border-radius)
    ha-config-card-border-radius: var(--ha-card-border-radius)
    feature-border-radius: var(--ha-card-border-radius)
    ha-button-radius: var(--ha-card-border-radius)

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Hello there,

As usual, I’ve installed the beta of 2025.8
The “blue” is gone …

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Now… How does that work on overriding?
I’m not able to find any documentation on the :host([***]) part, or in the CSS docs?

Why is --color-primary-** hardcoded in true hex-color-codes? Why don’t use 1 primary-color and use HSL to do the variants and mix with more or less shades and shifting of white/black?

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Noticed it too

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as is explained in my post :wink:

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you dont need that, you should only set this color variables in your themes, and they will be applied by the frontend accordingly

however, it is not yet very clear which color is used where, and that is why I asked for some extra documentation

Check this discord link, you can see that they will try to add something.