A lot of automations are suddenly missing

majbom · October 2, 2021, 9:59am

Hi there.

I just created a simple automation through the GUI, but it’s nowhere to be seen in automations.yaml - it’s working fine though
While I was looking in the file, I added som line breaks between each automation to make the file more manageable. Afterwards, I wasn’t able to edit the new automation through the GUI; I got the message “Only automations in automations.yaml are editable”. I tried to restart HA, but now I got af lot of automations with this message - none of these automations can be found in automations.yaml.

I’m pretty sure I have never made automations anywhere else than in that file or through the GUI.

What’s going on?

Thanks!

123 · October 2, 2021, 12:21pm

It sounds like your modifications to the file might be responsible for the problem.

Execute the following command Configuration > Server Controls > Check Configuration and confirm it reports no errors (also check Configuration > Logs).

majbom · October 2, 2021, 7:15pm

Sorry, I forgot to mention “Check configuration” do not report any errors.
I don’t see any related errors in the log, only 2 deconz errors and a nmap_tracker error.

123 · October 2, 2021, 7:37pm

Either manually undo the modifications you made, to automations.yaml, or restore from a backup created prior to the modifications.

majbom · October 2, 2021, 8:02pm

Crap!
I tried undoing the changes without any luck.
I’ll try the backup - thanks!

majbom · October 3, 2021, 5:21am

I still think it’s weird that the newly created automation doesn’t exist in the file, but works fine.

anon63427907 · October 3, 2021, 6:02am

Are these ghosts automation survive between restarts? o believe that they are created as entities in memory but weren’t stored into file and they will disappear after restart.

majbom · October 3, 2021, 6:59am

The one I created using the GUI that wasn’t in the file was completely gone after a restart. But I have a lot in the automations list that are “greyed out”, I can’t edit, run or toggle them active/inactive and their “Last triggered” says “never”, even though some of them have been triggered within the last week.

anon63427907 · October 3, 2021, 7:23am

Last triggered was not stored in db between restarts, if it has not changed recently, so it should be normal

majbom · October 3, 2021, 7:49am

Okay, but where is the rest of the info from, when the automations are not in the file?
How do I clean up when I can’t edit through GUI nor find find them in the file?

sjee · October 3, 2021, 7:55am

Show the file, without it we can only guess. And what is in your configuration.yaml?

majbom · October 3, 2021, 8:23am

Sorry, I have been answering from my phone the last few times.
Should I paste the contents here, or should I use pastebin or similar?

majbom · October 3, 2021, 10:39am

configuration.yaml

# Configure a default setup of Home Assistant (frontend, api, etc)
default_config:

homeassistant:
  customize: !include customize.yaml

http:
  use_x_forwarded_for: true
  trusted_proxies:
    - 192.168.0.13

# Text to speech
tts:
  - platform: google_translate
    language: "da"

intent_script:
  whereIsMikkel:
    speech:
      text: Mikkel er hjemme

google_assistant:
  project_id: tpv-home-assistant
  service_account: !include SERVICE_ACCOUNT.json
  report_state: true
  expose_by_default: false
  entity_config: !include ga.entities.yaml

logger:
  default: error
  logs:
    homeassistant.components.zwave: debug
  #  homeassistant.core: debug

mqtt:
  broker: 192.168.0.13
  username: ha
  password: !secret mqtt_pass

climate wavinAhc9000: !include wavin.yaml

device_tracker:
  - platform: nmap_tracker
    track_new_devices: yes
    scan_options: -p80 -host-timeout 5s
    consider_home: 180
    hosts: 192.168.0.50-55

sensor places_mikkel:
  - platform: places
    name: mikkel
    devicetracker_id: device_tracker.life360_mikkel
    options: zone,place,street
    map_provider: google
    map_zoom: 19
    home_zone: zone.home
    api_key: !secret email_morten
  - platform: places
    name: morten
    devicetracker_id: device_tracker.life360_morten
    options: zone,place,street
    map_provider: google
    map_zoom: 19
    home_zone: zone.home
    api_key: !secret email_morten

media_player:
  - platform: squeezebox
    host: 192.168.0.12
    port: 9000

sensor:
  - platform: mqtt
    name: "pCP Rack temperature"
    state_topic: "pcp/rack/temp"
  - platform: mqtt
    name: "pCP Rack fan"
    state_topic: "pcp/rack/fan"

light:
  - platform: switch
    name: Køkkenbord
    entity_id: switch.kitchen_table

light groups: !include group.light.yaml

group: !include groups.yaml
automation: !include automations.yaml
script: !include scripts.yaml
scene: !include scenes.yaml
zone: !include zone.yaml
input_boolean: !include input.boolean.yaml
input_number: !include input.number.yaml
input_select: !include input.select.yaml

automations.yaml

- id: '1610309985063'
  alias: Toggle lys, repos, nat, x1
  description: ''
  trigger:
  - platform: event
    event_type: zwave_js_value_notification
    event_data:
      node_id: 6
      command_class: 43
      value: 26
  condition: []
  action:
  - service: light.turn_off
    target:
      entity_id:
      - light.repos_middle
      - light.repos_window
  - service: light.toggle
    data:
      brightness_pct: 5
    target:
      entity_id: light.repos_night
  mode: single
- id: '1612859207202'
  alias: Skru ned, medieafspiller
  description: ''
  trigger:
  - platform: event
    event_type: deconz_event
    event_data:
      id: remote_kontor
      event: 3002
  condition: []
  action:
  - service: script.vol_down_media_player
    data_template:
      trigger: '{{trigger.event.data.id}}'
  mode: single
- id: '1612859377451'
  alias: Skru op, medieafspiller
  description: ''
  trigger:
  - platform: event
    event_type: deconz_event
    event_data:
      id: remote_kontor
      event: 2002
  condition: []
  action:
  - service: script.vol_up_media_player
    data_template:
      trigger: '{{trigger.event.data.id}}'
  mode: single
- id: '1612870710959'
  alias: Næste, medieafspiller
  description: ''
  trigger:
  - platform: event
    event_type: deconz_event
    event_data:
      id: remote_kontor
      event: 5002
  condition: []
  action:
  - service: script.radio_change_stream
    data_template:
      direction: next
      trigger: '{{trigger.event.data.id}}'
  mode: single
- id: '1612871032442'
  alias: Forrige, medieafspiller
  description: ''
  trigger:
  - platform: event
    event_type: deconz_event
    event_data:
      id: remote_kontor
      event: 4002
  condition: []
  action:
  - service: script.radio_change_stream
    data_template:
      direction: previous
      trigger: '{{trigger.event.data.id}}'
  mode: single
- id: '1613683945279'
  alias: Tænd/sluk medieafspiller
  description: ''
  trigger:
  - platform: event
    event_type: deconz_event
    event_data:
      id: remote_kontor
      event: 1002
  condition: []
  action:
  - service: script.toggle_media_player_power
    data_template:
      trigger: '{{trigger.event.data.id}}'
  mode: single
- id: '1614259489413'
  alias: Dørklokke
  description: ''
  trigger:
  - platform: event
    event_type: deconz_event
    event_data:
      id: friends_of_hue_switch
      event: 2002
  condition: []
  action:
  - service: script.doorbell
    data: {}
  mode: single
- id: '1616162977903'
  alias: Toggle lys, repos, nat, x2
  description: ''
  trigger:
  - platform: event
    event_type: zwave_js_value_notification
    event_data:
      node_id: 6
      command_class: 43
      value: 24
  condition: []
  action:
  - service: light.toggle
    data:
      brightness_pct: 100
    target:
      entity_id: light.repos_night
  mode: single
- id: '1616163790685'
  alias: Toggle lys, repos, nat, x3
  description: ''
  trigger:
  - platform: event
    event_type: zwave_js_value_notification
    event_data:
      node_id: 6
      command_class: 43
      value: 25
  condition: []
  action:
  - service: light.toggle
    data:
      brightness_pct: 100
    target:
      entity_id: light.repos
  mode: single
- alias: Dæmper, repos, start
  initial_state: true
  trigger:
  - platform: event
    event_type: zwave_js_event
    event_data:
      node_id: 6
      command_class: 43
      value: 22
  action:
  - service: script.turn_on
    target:
      entity_id: script.repos_light
    data:
      variables:
        light: light.repos_stairs_1
  id: a5bdd8b0097342e982eb926e8dd4d838
- alias: Dæmper, repos, stop
  initial_state: true
  trigger:
  - platform: event
    event_type: zwave_js_event
    event_data:
      node_id: 6
      command_class: 43
      value: 23
  action:
  - service: script.turn_off
    target:
      entity_id: script.repos_light
  - service: input_select.select_next
    target:
      entity_id: input_select.dim_repos_direction
  id: 98a1b63df0ff4ab4bbb27ace75ddc314
- alias: Dæmper, tv, start
  initial_state: true
  trigger:
  - platform: event
    event_type: deconz_event
    event_data:
      id: "friends_of_hue_switch"
      event: 1001
  action:
  - service: script.turn_on
    target:
      entity_id: script.tv_light
    data:
      variables:
        light: light.tv
- alias: Dæmper, tv, stop
  initial_state: true
  trigger:
  - platform: event
    event_type: deconz_event
    event_data:
      id: "friends_of_hue_switch"
      event: 1003
  action:
  - service: script.turn_off
    target:
      entity_id: script.tv_light
  - service: input_select.select_next
    target:
      entity_id: input_select.dim_tv_direction

- id: '1616699140636'
  alias: Toggle lys, spisebord
  description: ''
  trigger:
  - platform: event
    event_type: deconz_event
    event_data:
      id: tradfri_shortcut_button
      event: 1001
  condition: []
  action:
  - service: light.toggle
    data:
      brightness_pct: 100
    target:
      entity_id: light.spisebord
  mode: single
- id: '1617822594761'
  alias: Sluk TV, stue
  description: ''
  trigger:
  - platform: state
    entity_id: media_player.sony_bravia_tv
    from: 'on'
    to: 'off'
    for: 00:02:00
  condition: []
  action:
  - service: light.turn_off
    target:
      entity_id: light.tv
  mode: single
- id: '1617878265943'
  alias: Sluk lys, repos, sol op
  description: ''
  trigger:
  - platform: sun
    event: sunrise
    offset: -01:00:00
  condition: []
  action:
  - service: light.turn_off
    target:
      area_id: repos
  mode: single
- id: '1617967890476'
  alias: Toggle lys, køkkenborde
  description: ''
  trigger:
  - platform: event
    event_type: deconz_event
    event_data:
      id: tradfri_shortcut_button
      event: 1002
  condition: []
  action:
  - service: switch.toggle
    target:
      entity_id: switch.kokkenbord_current_value
  mode: single
- id: '1618942965043'
  alias: Toggle lys TV
  description: ''
  trigger:
  - platform: event
    event_type: deconz_event
    event_data:
      id: friends_of_hue_switch
      event: 1002
  condition: []
  action:
  - service: light.toggle
    target:
      entity_id: light.tv
    data:
      brightness_pct: 30
  mode: single

anon63427907 · October 4, 2021, 9:30am

i am not able to see anything weird here, @sjee might help

majbom · October 4, 2021, 10:40am

Okay, thanks for your time.

My automations list looks like this:

Does it make sense if HA is using an older version of automations.yaml ? I can see that some of the automations are using a node id of a replaced z-wave relay and I also have another automation that looks like and older version of itself.

sjee · October 4, 2021, 11:15am

You have automations with and without and ID in your automations.yaml Better remove the automations you’ve created manually and add somehting like this to your configuration.yaml This way you can keep automations created manually and through the UI separately which I expect is the cause of your issues.

majbom · October 4, 2021, 11:36am

I’m also pretty sure that it’s because I’ve been fiddling around in the file.
I’ll seperate the automations as per your link, thanks.

But how do I get rid of the “unknown” automations in my list?

123 · October 4, 2021, 12:04pm

Click the automation’s information icon, then click Remove Entity.

majbom · October 4, 2021, 12:09pm

Aah of course - thanks!

majbom · October 5, 2021, 8:20am

Just to try to figure out what happened after I (apparently) broke the automations.yaml