Add support for Hue Signe lamps

binoda · October 25, 2021, 8:53am

Philips Hue recently added some lights that can display gradients.

In Home Assistant, these lamps show as a single light and so no gradient can be configured for them.

I think it would be cool to add support for these lamps.

DeltaNoir · October 27, 2021, 10:08pm

I was looking into this as well for the Gradient Lightstrips (which is the same fixture within the Signe lamps). From my searching, it appears the Hue API documentation has not been updated with instructions for independently controlling the zones within the lightstrip.

Someone in the Hue Developer Forums appears to have figured out the commands needed for the undocumented APIv2, see full thread here (requires Hue Developer account).

Here is an excerpt:

you can access the address https://<IP>/clip/v2/resource. With this knowledge, you can get the ID of your gradient light. Using the ID, you can PUT (https://<IP>/clip/v2/resource/light/<ID>) something like:

{
  "on": {
    "on": true
  },
  "dimming": {
    "brightness": 50
  },
  "gradient": {
    "points": [
      {
        "color": {
          "xy": {
            "x": 0.6712,
            "y": 0.2984
          }
        }
      },
      {
        "color": {
          "xy": {
            "x": 0.4975,
            "y": 0.3572
          }
        }
      },
      {
        "color": {
          "xy": {
            "x": 0.4028,
            "y": 0.3948
          }
        }
      },
      {
        "color": {
          "xy": {
            "x": 0.424,
            "y": 0.4396
          }
        }
      },
      {
        "color": {
          "xy": {
            "x": 0.28,
            "y": 0.6174
          }
        }
      }
    ]
  }
}

…to control the segments.

nick2525 · January 29, 2022, 9:32pm

maybe there is some custom component for it?

madface · June 8, 2022, 6:48am

I have this lightstrip: Gradient Lightstrip 2M with a hue bridge.
When i use https://<IP_of_my_hue_bridge>/clip/v2/resource i get only:

Am i missing something?

AutomateThis · August 21, 2022, 2:01pm

I see the same thing when browsing to that address.

Adding gradient colour support would not just be useful for the Hue Signe lamps but also the Hue Gradient Lightstrips. It would be so nice to have this supported in Home Assistant!

eilert · February 28, 2023, 7:13am

This is an rather old thread and meanwhile the SkyConnect has entered the scene.
Unfortunately there seems to be the same problem if we try to connect to a gradient HUE strip (or Signe) thru ZigBee with SkyConnect.
ON/OFF, Color, Temperature and Brightness seems to work right out of the box on all Philips HUE lights.
A week of search and trial but no luck getting the gradient strips to work.

pimw · March 10, 2023, 11:49am

When using Deconz, you can control the lighstrip gradient via the REST API: https://github.com/dresden-elektronik/deconz-rest-plugin/pull/6316
Example:
curl -X PUT -d '{"gradient": {"points": [[0, 0], [1, 0]]}}' http://192.168.178.2:40850/api/E10D305128/lights/24/state

I think this will also work for the Signe lamp. But you need the newest firmware on the light (in the case of the gradient lightstrip: verison 1.101.1).

That being said, there is a more elegant approach. These lights support bluetooth. Use the Hue app on your phone, and set the app to ‘bluetooth only’ . Your lamp will be approachable via zigbee and bluetooth.
In this way, you can:
-easily upgrade the firmware in the Hue app
-easily set a nice gradient color in the Hue app. Nothing can rival the Hue App in this aspect: it works in a very nice way in which you choose 2 (or 3) colors from the color wheel, and the app will calculate the smoothest color gradient for you. This is really special to behold, and works much better than “technical” defining segments by yourself. Let the app do the work and it rewards you with awesome gradient effects.
Alternatively, you can pick the pre-defined scenes in the Hue app, which are also very nice.
-store the gradient color that you like as part of a scene in the Home Assistant addon of your choice (deconz in my case). The scene info will be stored on the lamp itself.
-call the stored scene via Home Assistant

This works perfect and is best of both worlds. And all local controlled.

Sawtaytoes · June 13, 2024, 9:30am

Is there a solution for this yet in ZHA? Seems Z2M supports it with colors, but I’m not sure how you’d set that from Home Assistant.

Sawtaytoes · May 24, 2025, 8:46am

Checking in again a year later. I’m assuming it’s not available:

Looks like it’s not supported at all, but the original poster said only the gradient isn’t supported. So then what is it?

Yet another reason Zigbee2MQTT seems beneficial. Seems like just about every device is supported with all features on it even though it’s a pain to move off ZHA, and ZHA is the default official Zigbee implementation in Home Assistant.

Sawtaytoes · May 24, 2025, 8:55am

After more research, this feature might be available now:

github.com/zigpy/zha-device-handlers

Expose the 'multicolor' command on Hue lights

dev ← kjagiello:hue-gradient

opened 11:35PM - 02 Jan 25 UTC

kjagiello

+161 -2

## Proposed change I have sourced the Hue device models that support gradient…s from [z2m](https://github.com/Koenkk/zigbee-herdsman-converters/blob/5be3337374c8ee4120966e8cb30b8a80f624391f/src/devices/philips.ts) and added a quirk for them, exposing Hue's "multicolor" command that can be used to control the gradient, i.e. set a custom gradient or activate a built-in gradient effect. Below you will find more details on how this command can be used. ### Static gradients Here comes an example of how to set a custom gradient using an HA action: ```yaml action: zha.issue_zigbee_cluster_command data: ieee: <ieee> cluster_id: 0xFC03 endpoint_id: 11 command: 0x0000 command_type: server params: data: '50010400135000000037a7a30edb6337a7a30edb6337a7a32800' ``` To try out some other gradients, you can try one of the [gradient scenes](https://github.com/Koenkk/zigbee-herdsman-converters/blob/5be3337374c8ee4120966e8cb30b8a80f624391f/src/lib/philips.ts#L285-L361). The payload structure is very cryptic, but, thankfully, the [deconz](https://github.com/dresden-elektronik/deconz-rest-plugin/blob/8ae69a976bca13f22e8002a13ebe798d1e26c086/hue.cpp#L280) and [z2m](https://github.com/Koenkk/zigbee2mqtt/issues/10674#issuecomment-1284527609) communities have done a great job deciphering it. This PR does however not provide any handy interface for constructing the payload, since I was not sure how to do it properly. If you want to create your own gradients, you can do it with the help of a simple wizard that I have put together: https://kjagiello.github.io/hue-gradient-command-wizard/.. ### Built-in effects Using an HA action, you can activate, for example, the "opal" Hue effect: ```yaml action: zha.issue_zigbee_cluster_command data: ieee: <ieee> cluster_id: 0xFC03 endpoint_id: 11 command: 0x0000 command_type: server params: data: '2100010b' ``` You can find more effects [here](https://github.com/Koenkk/zigbee-herdsman-converters/blob/5be3337374c8ee4120966e8cb30b8a80f624391f/src/lib/philips.ts#L363-L372). ## Additional info This PR should, at least partially, resolve the following issues: - https://github.com/zigpy/zha-device-handlers/issues/3500 - https://github.com/zigpy/zha-device-handlers/issues/2488 ## Checklist - [X] The changes are tested and work correctly - Caveat: As mentioned above, I have relied on the device signatures provided by z2m. The only gradient device that I own is LCX005, which I performed testing on. - [x] `pre-commit` checks pass / the code has been formatted using Black - [ ] Tests have been added to verify that the new code works

binoda · May 24, 2025, 8:58am

Hi, OP here.

I’m able to control my Signe table lamp as a single lamp (so all the segments have the same color). No gradient support from what I can tell.

Sawtaytoes · May 26, 2025, 5:08am

After buying a few to test, you’re correct; it’s only 1 color for the whole strip. I don’t use the Philips Hue app, nor do I have a bridge, so that’s as far as I go.

The question I have is what controls Home Assistant gives you to control LED light strips. As far as I know, those don’t exist. Home Assistant is a very on-off-dim tool, so just about every control is one of those. Either a toggle or a slider/dimmer or a selection of something from a list (similar to on-off).

I don’t think Home Assistant natively supports any sort of LED controls where you can create segments and color those segments.

LIFX Polychrome incompatible

That’s also the reason my LIFX Candle E12 only supports a single color rather than all the crazy “draw on the screen” ways of using it like you see in the app and on the website.

Cool color arrangements:

Versus Home Assistant:

WLED kinda works

And when people use custom LED strips, they’re typically using WLED. WLED lets you break up strips into segments, and Home Assistant can read in those segments. I can say “I want segment 1 blue and segment 2 red”. But it can’t do more than that.

The effects selection is how Home Assistant gets advanced control over something like WLED. It can’t actually control what’s happening, but it can start and stop (on-off) the playback of an effect.

Conclusion

So unless you use Philips Hue, you won’t be able to control the lights in this strip. That’s sad.

Same with my Polychrome lights. I need to use the LIFX app, set up scenes, and then share those scenes using the other LIFX integration with Home Assistant, so I can control the color arrangements. If those companies go outta business, you’re back to single-color .

Other thoughts

I wonder if something’s in the works or if there’s a community method of controlling LED strips. You’d essentially be creating a WLED-style frontend on top of proprietary systems.

Home Assistant doesn’t have a way to dynamically create entities in a device. You can do it outside, but not inside the device. If they did allow that, then you could create segments like WLED and configure them separately. You could potentially even create your own effects if there was a simpler way of doing it like SignalRGB.