🔥 Advanced Heating Control

[WyspSedai]

Hi,

I’m thrilled to try to use this blueprint, however I’m facing a small bit of trouble likely do to my lack of familiarity with the “ Heating Schedule Adjustments” section.

I have two scheduler helpers set up, “Heat Day Schedule” and “Heat Night Schedule”

During the day I want to run the comfort heating, eco temps, etc. as input into the blueprint.

However, my second schedule, “Heat Night Schedule” I want to adjust the comfort temperature to a lower value only during the set schedule hours, and then have my schedule return to “Heat Day Schedule”

Do I need to create two seperate automations using this blueprint to differentiate the comfort temperatures during the seperate schedules? Or am I able to combine everything into one instance of the blueprint automation?

Please advise, thank you!

[panhans]

No, never two automations. Do you always switch between the schedulers at a different time? If not, one scheduler would be sufficient.

If you just go with different temperatures for comfort and eco you just need to add two entries in heating adjustments.

- time: "08:00"
  scheduler: "Heat Day Schedule"
  comfort: "22"
  eco: "20"
- time: "20:00"
  scheduler: "Heat Night Schedule"
  comfort: "20"
  eco: "18"

[panhans]

Could you share the full trace log?

[stephanschleichstr13]

Also the dev does have some issues, trace following tomorrow.
Comfort temp is 20,5 and he Put it to 30.

Stable: comfort 18C Not at Home makes to 18,5 somewhere He must add 0,5 C (generic calibration activ)

I Play with them tomorrow on Home-Office

[TomVW (Tomvanwehaege)]

Hey i went from 3.7.3 to 4.0.2 by re-installing the blueprint. but now i get a “Response error: 500”. Do not know what to do…

1. got it! after the update the off-temperature taken from the 3.7.3 is put in the ‘Eco Temperature’ entity and not as ‘Static Eco Temperature’ number

2. after installing update, config check: Unexpected error calling config validator: ‘int’ object is not iterable, can’t restart HA.

[Timsche2210 (Timo)]

I get the same error and tried to create a new automation with this blueprint, it saved w/o error but doesnt appear in the automations overview.
Can you check if the situation is the same at your config?

[TomVW (Tomvanwehaege)]

i reset-reinput al my values, entities and schedules, and save went good, and config check was ok!

[Mar1us]

had the same issue. I had to remove the old automations first and then configure this again

[panhans]

In the current dev version I’ve added new hints. Maybe it needs some log warnings too. Generic calibration and aggressive mode wont work properly with physical change feature.

[stephanschleichstr13]

Okay, currently the hops to 30C dont come again, i will see the rest of the day. it was no manuell change on the thermostat only via GUI

here is the trace from the stable version. 1c070a07 - { "trace": { "last_step": "action/2/default/4/if/conditio
normally it should be 18C but he changed to 18,5 but i dont see anything in the trace about this change, i check it the next days too

[tco95ttocs (Mario)]

Hi everybody,

and @panhans: thx for that blueprint

For testing i created a automation with a scheduler for setting the temperatures, a wintermode an the static comfort and static eco temperature. All seems to work fine until i try to change the temperature manually (in the Dashboard or at the valve directly)! If i do that a few seconds later the old temp is set again!
I tried with “Physical Temperature Change” enabled and disabled!
How could i solve this problem?!

[panhans]

There is currently a fix in the dev version. But I recommend changing temperature using the temperature helpers. If you want you can try it or wait until it’s merged in the main version.

[TomVW (Tomvanwehaege)]

how do i implement an ‘away’ function?
i have 5 schedules for 5 rooms, but when my wife doesnt work from home, how do i disable the heatingschedule in her home office?

ok, found it!
made an empty schedule, but that next to the ‘normal’ schedule, made a boolean switch en toggle between the two.

Nice blueprint, i realy like it!

[tco95ttocs (Mario)]

a fix sounds good
I tried with helpers for eco and comfort but than i have to problems:

1. only i can change the values
2. the helpers only accapt integer values (not a problem with the blueprint but a restriction from the number helper of HA)

i think i will try the dev version until the new main-version is released :)!
Is it possible to use dev and main version parallel?

let me give the answer myself…yes its possible to use both versions

i tested it shortly, and it looks good for now. But i have to test more, it could be that there are some issues when having a scheduler behind the automation!

[emarcelcom (eMarcel)]

Hi and thanks for this amazing blueprint!
I have a small issue with the automation setup to control the air conditioning unit. When selecting the option “Turn OFF Instead Of Eco Temperature,” the system successfully turns off the air conditioning unit when the ambient temperature exceeds the set threshold. However, it fails to turning ON the airco unit and set to it to heating when the temperature falls below the set threshold. The desired outcome is for the heating to automatically turn on once the ambient temperature drops below the specified threshold to maintain the set comfort/eco temperature of e.g. 20 degrees Celsius. Any help would be much appreciated.

[tco95ttocs (Mario)]

What will happen if i define a calibration sensor, without setting the calibration tweaks?

I ask, because if the heating is on, everything seems to work, and the offset is added to the comfort-Temperature!

But if i go to eco-Temp or if the time-scheduler is off, than the offset is getting bigger and instead of closing the valves they are still open!

Example:
eco : 16
comfort: 21
Room: 18
TRV: 12
The windows is open and the room-temp should be the reference for the trv!

The offset is now 18-12 = 6

Heating on: 21+6 = 27 → thats ne new comfort temp! This will get smaller if the temp in the room rises until room and TRV have the same temp!

Heating off: 16+6 = 22 → thats the new eco Temp! But in this case the valves will still be open. And if the temp at the TRV will maybe go down to 10, than the Offset will rise and the eco-temp also will do that. So there is no cooling down!

Is that right or do i have a gap in my brain

[kasey]

Is it possible to turn on heating when the outside temperature goes above a certain threshold? As far as I can tell, it seems like it’s only currently possible to turn on heating when the outside temp falls below a certain threshold.

For example, I’d love to be able to turn on heating when outside temp is below 55 °F, turn on cooling when outside is above 80 °F, and have it HVAC off when outside temp is between 55 °F and 80 °F.

[Orishas]

Hi, I really appreciate your awesome automation tool! I have a question and suggestion:

I primarily use the Auto Mode on my thermostats for temperature control. It’s convenient and easy to manage through the app. However, even in Auto Mode, I’m still able to manually adjust the temperature. This means your automation might sometimes override my Auto Mode settings when the “window & doors” option changes state (e.g., closed in the evening).

To work around this, I could use the schedule and set it like in the app? Would it be possible to add a tweak to your automation that ignores the comfort and eco temperature settings if the thermostat uses Auto Mode?

Thank you for your time and consideration!

[stephanschleichstr13]

Info: Actually dev works good for me. Waiting for new Features
My last problems from older devs are away

[panhans]

@tco95ttocs

the helpers only accapt integer values (not a problem with the blueprint but a restriction from the number helper of HA)

Nope, you can specify the step size. Also floats are possible.

@emarcelcom

The desired outcome is for the heating to automatically turn on once the ambient temperature drops below the specified threshold to maintain the set comfort/eco temperature of e.g. 20 degrees Celsius.

This is the task of a thermostat. If the automation sets your thermostat to heat and a target temperature and yet your air conditioning system does not start, there is probably something wrong with your air conditioning system or your thermostat.

@tco95ttocs

What will happen if i define a calibration sensor, without setting the calibration tweaks?

It will run calibration with default values. (Except Popp, Danfoss, Hive)

@tco95ttocs

Heating off: 16+6 = 22 → thats the new eco Temp! But in this case the valves will still be open. And if the temp at the TRV will maybe go down to 10, than the Offset will rise and the eco-temp also will do that. So there is no cooling down!

The reference is always the room temperature. 22 is in this case the temperature to hold the room temperature on 16°C, but with time the differences between TRV and room temperature will equalize a little and the calibration offset will be renewed.
You can also play a little with aggressive mode if you want faster reactions.

@kasey

For example, I’d love to be able to turn on heating when outside temp is below 55 °F, turn on cooling when outside is above 80 °F, and have it HVAC off when outside temp is between 55 °F and 80 °F.

Not possible atm. Maybe later this year when I’ve added more options for hvac modes.

@Orishas

To work around this, I could use the schedule and set it like in the app? Would it be possible to add a tweak to your automation that ignores the comfort and eco temperature settings if the thermostat uses Auto Mode?

It’s planned to create a scene based backup of the states of the thermostats in order to restore the states after closing the window or when a schedule ends dynamically.

@stephanschleichstr13

Info: Actually dev works good for me. Waiting for new Features
My last problems from older devs are away

Thanks for your feedback. A little fix will come to dev version. Hopefully I am right back in the game next week again to start adding some of the wanted features.