You sure that’s not extra low voltage?
The ones from China are CE certified which is acceptable for Australia.
No, it isn’t. Look at the link Cam posted: https://www.acma.gov.au/Industry/Suppliers/Product-supply-and-compliance/Supplier-resources/products-labelled-with-overseas-markings
I’ve never heard Klago’s definition. The ones SparkyDave posted are correct. AS/NZS3000:2010 clause 1.5.7(a)
I beg to differ, you need to read the document again I believe.
European Community-Australia Mutual Recognition Agreement: Frequently Asked Questions
- What is the EC-MRA? The EC-Australia Mutual Recognition Agreement (EC-MRA) is a Treaty-status Agreement between the Australian Government and the governments of the European Community. It came into force on 1 January 1999.
Then under item 5
CE represents “Conformité Européenne”. CE Marking indicates that a product may be legally sold in all Member States of the European Economic Area. Each Member State must accept CE Marked products without requiring any further testing or approval in relation to requirements covered by European regulations.
Now read the ACMA link I posted:
Products that are labelled with overseas markings (for example, ‘CE’ mark or FCC approval) cannot automatically be lawfully supplied in Australia.
The mutual agreement allows for CE certified products to be labelled with the RCM by the exporter. Without the RCM the product cannot be sold in Australia. The products direct from China do not have the RCM. They cannot be sold legally in Australia.
One thing to bear in mind…these products are not purchased in Australia.
Also, I don’t see any mention of the treaty I quoted becoming null and void on the link you posted?
IMHO, CE compliant products are compliant with Australian Standards.
But then again, each to their own (opinion).
Cheers!
The ACMA regulates compliance marking. Importers (or domestic manufacturers) are usually responsible for testing and compliance marking.
The mutual agreement only allows for regulatory compliance marking by the exporter Instead of the importer.
The product still has to have an RCM to be used in Australia.
The Chinese product does not have an RCM therefore it is not legally allowed to be used in Australia. CE is not the RCM. It means zero in Australia.
The one purchased from the Australian supplier does have an RCM. It can legally be used in Australia.
Yes they are very likely identical products and Yes you’d be had pressed to read an RCM on a device that caused your house to burn down but that’s not the point. The thread is about Australian Certified Hardware. For this it must have an RCM.
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Also bear in mind that the CE marking may not represent EU conformity. Products from china also use a similar CE mark (china export). https://ce-check.eu/ce-marking-topics/the-ce-mark-of-a-product-real-or-fake/
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Indeed sonoff are not, as general rule, ce certified, as in european certified.
The certificate they display on their website are for wifi compliance, not electrical safety.
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I just contacted these guys:
They have the TH models as well so that solves the switch wiring problem
Cam
Annnnnd the TH models they have are only legal with the IO port blocked - so dumb.
can we not get sonoff certified?
i mean it’s australia, regulator is the easiest job in the joint, all regulated industries pretty much do as they please.
check out our housing standards, prices on privatised regulated industries such as electic etc. it’s basically the wild west.
i wonder if it might be easier to find out who’s leg we have to hump to get sonoff over the line?
Fill your boots, certification costs though.
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another option i guess is to use a cheeky chinese control board that outputs less than 25VAC or 60VDC so falls within SELV regs. use this to switch a din 240v relay / ssr.
as long as the relay itself passes regs id assume that’ll be good.
from what ive seen this would be polishing a turd tho, it’d likely be the best wiring in the board. our board was replaced about a year ago, it’s a mess, no busbar just 20 cables twisted in a bunch soldered and taped. signed off to regs tho.
yee-ha!
The POW2 and DUAL have been certified for use in Aus. See links above.
So are the TH10 and TH16… but they have to block off the gpio ports 
I saw that. Bugger.
Are there any products such as the Sonof that can handle being installed in the switch board of the house? Would love to be able to monitor the overall usage of individual circuits.
Though I don’t need to be able to control it, just monitor. If anyone else has a better solution (HA integration would be a huge plus), that would be great!