Context
I’m new to Home Assistant and have a question on wall mounted light and fan switches. We are building a house that will have around four fans and 34 light switches of several configurations including, single pole, single pole dual switch, 3-way-dimmer.
Requirements
The specific requirements are:
- As it is a new construction, we will like it to be all consistent, which probably means using a single vendor (Leviton, Lutron, etc.).
- For the same reason, I prefer a switch that requires neutral.
- Type of switches:
- smart single pole switches
- smart single pole dimmer switches
- smart single pole dual switches
- smart single pole dual dimmer switches
- smart 3-way dimmer switches
- smart fan switches
- The switches must communicate over Z-Wave, ZigBee, or Matter with HA (or a hub connected to HA). They should not require a WiFi network and certainly should not require cloud connectivity. This location has very bad Internet connectivity, but most important, I want to maintain HA and its data local without Internet connection.
- The switches should be black to keep the wife happy. This is probably the easier requirement to meet, but should not forget about it.
- We do not need a phone app or Alexa, Siri, etc. The device may have those capabilities, but we are not planning to use it. In the future, if the internet connection improves, we plan to use HA mobile app.
Comments
Having two dimmers in a single gang (single pole dual switch) is the most difficult requirement (MOES ZigBee seems to be the only switch capable of this). The reason, been that I need to limit the wall boxes to maximum 3 gangs. Otherwise, I will need boxed for 4 and 5 gangs, which we don’t want.
Based on those requirements, I have been searching for a solution. So far, I have looked at Lutron, Levitron, MOES, Zooz, Sonoff, Enbrighten, Insteon, Inovelly (insane prices), and Wyze. I may be missing something or it may be that I need to relax my requirement of a single brand. But even under that relaxed condition, I’m unable to find the set of switches to meet my requirements.
MOES ZigBee comes close, but does not seems to have a, non-WiFi, fan switch, and the 3-way dimmers don’t use neutral (not a big deal, but nevertheless). But more important, it requires a “Tuya MOES ZigBee gateway” that seems to use a cloud service. The manual for the Moes’ ZigBee Multi-gang Smart Light Dimmer Switch requires to install the Smart Life App and create an account. So, that does not works for me.
Questions
My questions are the following:
- Can MOES ZigBee be connected locally to HA without a cloud connection (or account)?
- If so, what are the experiences with MOES?
- Is there any vendor that can meet my requirements? Am I missing something? Like other products or may be I’m reading the specs wrong.
- Which other vendors should look at?
Any suggestions are welcome.