Bosch Security Motion Sensors ISW-ZPR1-WP13

I figured there was some interest in these so I would start a dedicated thread.

I can pair mine and they show up in HA but then shortly later they “un-pair” themselves. Then on restart of HA they are removed from the entity list.

I can’t get the pairing to “stick”.

Has anyone gotten these to work and the resolution is just common knowledge that I’m not aware of?

Or is there just no easy way to incorporate them into HA?

Even a moderately complex solution would be helpful.

Bosch makes a million different models of motion sensor, which ones exactly? Radion ZB series? If so, this may be related.

Ah, sorry about that.

I meant to put the model number in but completely forgot.

it’s ISW-ZPR1-WP13

Yeah, I’d chalk it up to bellows and the zha component still being pretty, well, raw. I have two Cree bulbs that simply refuse to work consistently, and yet when I put one on Iris as a test it’s been flawless. I just decided to continue expanding my Z-Wave collection for now.

That leads to another question…

What is the “bellows”?

I’ve seen reference to it here before but doing a search doesn’t provide any info on what it is or does.

And yes z wave is pretty solid but any motion sensors I’ve found are pretty pricey.

The Bosch sensors can be found pretty cheaply at times and would be a nice addition to the tool box.

I figured I would update this old post to say that since the recent updates to the zha component that these motion sensors are now reliably working in HA.

:partying_face:

I’ve had one running for about a month now and it’s been rock solid.

Hi Finity,
I just bought 4 of these sensors for integration with Hassio. Would you be able to provide me with your config or a good place to start?
Thanks a lot Finity,
David

With the latest versions of HA and the ZHA component configured all I needed to do was pair the sensor just like you do for any other zigbee device. there is no other device specific configuration needed.

After that it just worked. And has been working for over a month now.

Do I need a ZHA hub? Right now I have home assistant running with a couple of shellies and bought the motion sensors when I saw them on sale for 10 bucks so i’m hoping I don’t need a ZHA hub.
Thanks for the quick response

Yes you need a zigbee controller (hub)

Which one are you using or do you have any recommendations?

Yes, you need a USB Zigbee radio dongle like the nortek husbzb-1, plugged into the device that’s hosting Home Assistant. Or you get a hub like SmartThings, Wink, or Hubitat and connect Home Assistant using integrations or Hass.io add-ons. Either way, you need a device that has a Zigbee radio to communicate to the sensors.

How hard is the USB dongle to integrate? I’m not the best with coding so the easier the better

The USB dongle and Home Assistant will always be more work than a dedicated hub like SmartThings, but it’s not too bad to set up. If you want to pair Z-Wave locks with Home Assistant, then it gets a little more complicated because you have to setup a network key.

For Zigbee devices, it is pretty easy to pair and unpair Zigbee light bulbs and sensors in Home Assistant with a USB dongle. It is a huge pain to manage Z-Wave devices because there aren’t any notifications on successful and unsuccessful pairing. You just refresh the browser and hope your sensor shows up. I quit using the USB dongle after wasting a weekend trying to pair three different Z-Wave Plus sensors to Home Assistant and went back to using SmartThings and Home Assistant together.

You can find a SmartThings 3rd gen hub on eBay for $45, which is the same price as a USB dongle. Home Assistant integration is incredibly easy using Home Assistant Cloud, but that costs $5/month (but you’re supporting the developers!). You could also setup SmartThings and HA using MQTT, but it’ll be a little more painful.

You could also try Hubitat Elevation and HA together. There is a Hass.io add-on that connects the two, though I don’t know how user-friendly it is.

I use the HUSBZB-1 dongle.

In my opinion it was really easy to set up. I think it I set up pretty early on using HA.

With the new Zigbee integration I think it makes it pretty easy to use.

And an additional benefit is that it also comes with zwave radio so you don’t have to buy another dongle to add zwave devices.

So do you just plug it into the USB of the raspberry pi or how does that work? I’m thinking about buying it since it opens the door to a million more devices but I just want to make sure that I can get it working

Yes that’s pretty much it.

There is some configuration tgat you do in HA but it’s pretty minimal.