Cannot delete all links in 2nd gen Insteon hub

Hello, I’m using the insteon integration and I’m having some issues with a couple switchlincs. One always turns on at 50%, and the other only turns off. I suspect I forgot to have them both at 100% on when I linked them to my second gen hub. I tried to re-link the all-link and delete the all-link, but it doesn’t seem to me working. Can anyone point me in the right direction?

@teharris1

I have an old serial Insteon PLM and I was able to confirm a couple things. First, I have been using a Gen2 Insteon hub with home assistant. The Insteon integration sees it just fine. The first time I loaded the integration there were no devices, which makes sense because when Insteon ghosted us, I reset my hub thinking something else weird had happened (especially because I had recently replaced the caps on the switching power supply). I then used the HA developer tools to add links and was successful, although a couple modules were acting weird, maybe because of my last post. I then factory reset all my Insteon devices and was able to confirm with my serial wall PLM that the factory resets worked. This includes my hub. What was confusing, is after resetting all my Insteon devices and removing/re-adding the insteon integration, the integration would immediately find 20 devices. Insteon vets know nothing happens that quickly with Insteon setup, so I suspect some files are not being reset upon the Insteon integration re-installation. I believe that is what was causing my two dimmers to act weird, even after I resent everything. I’ve since reimaged my HA SD card and haven’t relinked everything to the HUB again. I’ve spent too much time this weekend tearing my system down and bringing it up, so will wait until others chime in with a good path forward. I did climb the HA learning curve a bit, so that’s cool.

I would appreciate any guidance in broad strokes how to get all my stuff added to HA with the ultimate goal of getting the Google Home Integration working to control my lighting like before Insteon died.

Yeah, what you are seeing is that HA caches the devices in a file called insteon_devices.json in the configuration directory. If you want to remove the devices you need to delete that file and have it rediscover what was added back.

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Hello, @teharris1. Thank you, I will check the json out. Are there any resources you can point me to to self diagnose? Auto-discovery, or what I believe is the correct behavior doesn’t seem to be working for me. Am I correct in assuming in a perfect world, I don’t need to manually add an all-link manually for each device by physically pressing the link buttons? If yes, what typically breaks the auto discovery?

Auto discovery does not find random devices on the network. It reads the modem’s link database for devices the modem has linked to it and discovers the device type. Yes, you need to have your devices linked to the modem. This can be done by pressing the set button on both devices or it can be done via the Insteon panel as of 2022.5. The official version of 2022.5 comes out today. I would upgrade to that before going further since there are a few fixes that are important.

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Got it. Thank you. I have 2022.5 installed. Is there way to copy a Homelinc database stored in my old serial PLM into HA to download to my Hub? Otherwise, I should use the hub link button and add it as a controller for all devices with an output?

Unfortunately not. Linking the Hub and the device us required.

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