Thanks for the thoughts!
I had Hue bulbs and a v2 hub, and I really liked the integration I had with SmartThings, Alexa, and HA. I returned it to try out options that didn’t require the additional hub and currently am using Cree Connect bulbs (offhand I think they’re Zigbee?) that connect to my ST hub. The Cree bulbs work pretty well, but they do a flicker thing and aren’t in sync when they turn on/off or dim up/down while the Hue bulbs had no weird flicker and they synced their on/off based on the groups I created. I’m leaning hard toward going back to Hue but I really really hesitate due to “vendor lock-in”.
I definitely have stayed away from most of the cheap China bulbs for the exact reason you mentioned.