Consumption of all appliances in the home

[GiulioG (Giulio Galluzzo)]

I read a while back that there’s a new technology
which allows you to measure the consumption of all the
home appliances by installing a single appliance
to the main breaker entrance to the house.
After a month of learning this technology
whose name I can’t remember (if someone can remind me)
recognizes all devices in the home and can
have consumption in time or statistics.

Is there anything that works with HOME ASSISTANT?

Thanks

[GiulioG (Giulio Galluzzo)]

I’m refferring to Nilm Tecnology.
i found only this
NILM Please! - Feature Requests - Home Assistant Community (home-assistant.io)
Somenthing new?

[k8gg]

In order to identify your appliances based on the patterns / signatures of your power consumption at your main breaker, these types of solutions would require some cloud component one way or another, for AI computing power. The accuracy of those AI remains to be seen, but I can think of a couple examples:

• Sense being the one focusing on ML / AI to recognize your appliances
• Smappee Infinity - the company started with similar offering as Sense above, but is promoting EV charger and power management platform these days, targeting property and business owners.
• There is was also Neurio. Wait - looks like it was acquired by a home/industrial gas-burning power generator company trying to go green, and the neur.io website is now gone. Wouldn’t touch this.

Don’t think there’s any new major player over last 1-2 years.
(There was also PowerX that was kickstarted but not shipping just yet. The company claims appliance recognition being one of its features. We will see.)

NILM you mentioned above is probably the closest you can get if you wish to roll your own ML (presumably) locally. However no HA integration just yet, it seems.

Another approach to do it is to track individual consumption at the breaker box - no ML involved. Most likely in the form of multiple CT clamps tracking different breakers for major appliances you wish to track (water heaters, fridge, AC, range, dryers, washers, etc.) all plugged into one hub, example: IoTaWatt, or something like Shelly Pro 4PM for inline tracking…
That said, I understand they are not exactly what you are asking.

[GiulioG (Giulio Galluzzo)]

Thank you very much… I think I’ll waiting for HA solution!

[francisp (Francis)]

In the mean time, you can start with powercalc

Powercalc - Virtual power sensors

In the last few weeks I have been working on a custom component to get virtual power sensors for your lights or other devices. It is stable enough right now to share it on this forum and make dedicated topic for it. The component provides multiple strategies to calculate estimated power consumption. One of the most interesting is the LUT method (using lookup tables). Some community members and me have taken measurements for all kind of different brightness/hue/saturation settings and their resp…

[henriquebol]

I’m working on something in that direction, using ML.

But as I’m new to HA, I still don’t know exactly which way to go. Maybe integrate HA with a local application, or try something in the cloud…

NILM Please!

I believe that NILMTK would not be interesting to integrate. In addition to running locally, it is more research-oriented, for comparing ML algorithms. I’m working on something in that direction. I’m using an esp + pzem004t (esphome/tasmota) to capture the data and I’m having good results using KNN to disaggregate and classify some appliances, looking only at the data from the electricity meter that sits between the house and the grid (after training). The idea is to use this information toge…