Dealing with my wife leaving her key at home

In a way I have only myself to blame here…I’ve added RFID unlocking to our side door and as a result my wife has started leaving her bluetooth beacon at home.

Which means my ‘group’ comprising her iphone and her bluetooth beacon have become an endless spiralling loop of chaos

Anyway to deal with this?!

Thank you…

Hi, could it be that your wife is protesting to her smart home?
What if you take her (mobile) out of the system and give her the possibility to not have to use any technology to leave/enter the house.

I’m not joking, why would she leave that BT beacon otherwise…

She could very well be protesting at her smart home!! She’s not a fan. But then she seems to have taken to the keyless login as (to her mind) one of the few advantages of the smart home.
Only problem is it throws off the alarm and various thermostat related automations if the house doesn’t know if she’s in it or not.

In that case, I think you have other things to solve than technological ones…
I guess you have heard about the WAF, no?
Every resident should be on board when you start automating your home.

Yes, I have heard about WAF. Thanks for the counselling session!!

;-), that was not my intention but maybe I understand your OP wrong…

Can’t you use her phone (guess she doesn’t leave without it) as the way to steer her presence/absence?

Phones on their own are not good/quick/reliable enough for me as the sole determiner of whether someone is in or out. Combining a phone (I use iCloud3) and a beacon into a group has been brilliant for years now.
Until…

For you yes, so you can rule out yourself as “trigger” for alarms/thermostats etc

For your wife, you then got her phone

1 you are Out ( says ur phone/beacon ) 100% reliable , maybe
2 your wife’s Phone are out, says mobile-App ( reported miles away cording to GPS, or ? ) somehow reliable.
3. NO motion detected for X min, NO entities have manually been activated for X min, + Wife’s phone away, And you are Away, and have not “manually” “ticked” the Manual Away-Settings … Set Away
4. Dont tell me your “Smart-Lock” can tell that your wife “Locked” the door ( As last person ) … Or ?
5. And beside Motion-sensors, you don’t have Cams(with motion/sound detection) ?

I found using the WIFI network the phone is connected to as the best indicator as they usually connect pretty quick when I get home.

yeah it’s pretty good, but not fool proof, what if the phone comes back with a flat battery for example. That’s one reason why a combination approach is great (until one device gets left at home!) :smiley:

I do have in my automations various checks for ‘correcting’ for this already, but they were more for dealing with it on ‘odd occasions’ not 90% of the time! :smiley:

      - condition: template
        value_template: '{{ (states.device_tracker.maryphone.state != "home" and ((as_timestamp(states.sensor.date.state + " " + states.sensor.time.state) - as_timestamp(states.device_tracker.maryphone.last_updated)) / 60 ) | int > 60) }}'

eg the above as a condition in a correcting automation