Drayton Wiser Home Assistant Integration

Thanks, for clarifying that, but now I don’t appear to be able to cancel the away mode temp override override on the kitchen.

The system is in away mode. I then adjusted the temperature on the kitchen climate card from the default 12.5 to 12 and now I am unable to cancel this override so that it follows the same away mode as all other rooms, and shows the same status “Idle - Away Mode”

Hi Jamie,

Do you have an ETA for the WiFi update - I am suffering the same issue (at least once a day) and have disabled my AwayMode automation to avoid returning to a cold house. Happy to join beta program if that will help 04-B6-18.

Home network is Fritzbox 7530 and FritzRepeater 3000 (Hub connected to repeater as its closer). My alternative to fix this is to put in a dedicted AccessPoint with separate wifi SSID to avoid mesh redirects.

Hi James,

We tried something with Mark that didn’t work so next steps are to investigate why and try again. I’m convinced it is something to do with particular routers or network configurations. I’m hoping we can resolve it in the next week or so.

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Strange adjustment of temperature set point at around 21:45 where multiple set points dropped to 14 degrees (overnight setting) even though no schedules are set to alter temperatures at this time.

Screenshot below of grafana shows drop in set point (red lines) - only changes I made a few days ago was to include template schedules (no room assignment) to allow fast switching of schedules for guests arriving.

Any idea what could have caused this?

This may be a side effect of your choice of fill options in your influx queries. I have experienced something similar when trying to set up a grafana dashboard for the wiser measurements. Have you checked the climate entity graphs in HA to see if they show similar plots?
EDIT - actually scub that. I think my problems stem from graphing LTS measurements rather than climate entities.

Same or similar thing happened to me yesterday evening. Several zones had dropped their target temps to 15 degrees, this is also my overnight temp. Nothing had been touched in the app or HA. There was no overrides to cancel.

Using HA I did a boost all then cancel all boosts and everything went back to normal.
I think this has happened to me before.
In the screen capture for one zone you can see the target temp drop to 15 degrees around 19:45.
The boosted all and cancelled at around 20:15. The heating goes off at 22:00.

Hello guys, newbie here. I have the Drayton Wiser HA Intergration all set up, great work by the way. A few of my radiators are located close to / behind furniture, and as such the thermostats do not give an accurate reading of the ambient room temperature. Is it possible to integrate third party thermostats, and I am specificaly thinking about a Sonoff NS Panel, and have that control the heating in that room.

Yes you can use HA automations to artificially boost the temps based on a HA compatible roomstat, see the recipies here wiserHomeAssistantPlatform/recipes/manage_temps.md at 6549411942e8c5e99b6fa63988b109c15fe7b8c6 · asantaga/wiserHomeAssistantPlatform · GitHub

The alternative is to get a real Room thermostat for that room, it then controls the temp based on the temperature where you put it… its probably the best approach, but it isnt cheap (£70-80) per room

The main disadvantage of using the HA approach is the temperature readings in the wiser app are from the trv (behind ya sofa!)

Give the HA automation a go, if it doesnt work for you then go for the room stat.

PS WELCOME to the community! , Its amazing how alive this community is :slight_smile:

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This brings me back to my use case that with the current devices isn’t possible which is a shame.

I have iTRVs on all the radiators in the house except the towel rails in the bathrooms. These are on the central heating system and so warm up whenever the heating is called on to heat another room. This is fine, but I’d like to to be able monitor the temperature in these rooms and call on the boiler to heat without the iTRVs asking for any heat. I could get room thermostats for the bathrooms, but these are not designed for the damp environment, and are expensive. Ideally I’d like to have a non-display thermostat (or ability to use something like a Sonoff temperature sensor) and have that call for heat in these rooms. It would be great if there was a bathroom thermostate from Wiser that could do this. Longer term, when we redo the bathrooms we’ll get electrically heated towel rails which could use the new electrical switch, but we’d still need a suitable temperature sensor.

@jamiebennett - something for the future!?

Definitely something for the future.

Any chance you could have accidentally triggered away mode? It’s suspicious that the 15 degree temp is the same as you ‘off’ temp too. Just a thought.

Not in my case - Away Mode is set to 11 degrees (use for holidays).

No I don’t think so. It wasn’t all zones and no one had touched any controls via app, HA or hardware.
My away mode is set to 16 degrees.

Thinking about workarounds for this, you could always stick a cheap home-assistant-readable thermostat in the bathroom and use it to adjust the setpoint of a Wiser thermostat such that it triggers the heating.

For example, use an automation so that when the bathroom thermostat drops below 20, it automatically boosts another room of the house by one degree in order to heat the towel rails. Something like that would seem possible, if a bit janky.

Agreed, this is a possible solution and one I’m considering. It would be nice to be able to do it all with Wiser devices to make it consistent and potential future owner friendly. There must be a significant number of UK homes with rooms without TRVs like bathrooms so having a suitable stat for these would be great.

100% would love something like this. I’m finding that in some of our larger rooms an ESP32 thermostat records the temperature as 16c when the Wiser iTRV thinks it’s over 20. So the radiators shut off and the room never gets warm. Could absolutely do something janky with boosts but it would be great to be able to override the temperature like the official wall 'stat does.

What is the best/correct way to request a new feature?

On my old heating controller was an ‘Advance’ button which simply jumped to the next time on the controller to either turn it on or off earlier.
I used to use this if I got up earlier than the time of the next on period. So if I got up at 6am but heating didn’t come on until 7am I could get it to come on early.

I’d like to be able to do this, ideally per schedule but globally would be fine, but I appreciate there is a lot more going on than ‘turn on at xx time’ so is this something that could be added?

Pete, this already exists.

You can also add this to a button if you want by calling the climate.set_preset service with ‘Advance Schedule’ as the preset.

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I can believe it’s been there nearly a year and I never once noticed it. :flushed: :flushed:

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Since we have someone from Wiser here I might as well ask - do you have any pearls of wisdom about how it determines what flow temperature to request from the boiler in OpenTherm mode? Especially when “comfort” is engaged, I’m curious about how fast it chooses to heat the room versus running the boiler longer but more economically at a lower flow temp. It’d be a cool setting to play with too if it was ever made user-modifiable!

Anyone running in OpenTherm mode I’d love to know what sort of data you’ve gleaned from the system.

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