Drayton Wiser Home Assistant Integration

It’s done in the official app under Settings/Devices/Hub. There is/was a bug that prevented you changing this on the recent GUI refresh release. It appears to be fixed in the latest version, on Android at least. Make sure you’ve updated the app?

No, there doesn’t seem to be any real documentation on the differences between these. I can’t remember where I found out about that. I think it was in one of the Drayton videos on YouTube where James, who I think is their trainer, mentioned it during one of his videos.

Just update app to 6.1.1 on android. Before I could select Heat Source Type but it wouldn’t save. Now clicking pencil icon to edit does nothing at all :laughing:
EDIT: tried connecting directly to hub in setup mode - I can select Heat Source Type but it disappears from UI while I’m looking at it - I assume when app tries to save changes.

It’s a bit flaky. They seem to have half fixed it; it works sometimes and not others. Try fully closing and re-opening the app a few times until you can edit it.

I had this problem and was told to do a factory rest on the Room stat
The instructions were as follow
In order to put the room thermostat into pairing mode, remove one of the batteries.

  • As soon as you put the battery back in, the device will wake up and a green screen will be displayed
  • Immediately, press and hold the + and - buttons for 20 seconds.
  • After 20s the screen should change to displaying a wifi fan symbol
  • Press ‘O’ and then select room thermostat on the app.
    I had to do it a couple of times and the last step didn’t seam to do anything.
    It removes it from you system so you have to add it back in as if it were a new one.
    For good measure I also reset the TRV.
    Geoff

Sorry for chasing off this old thread. I think it will be easier to avoid elaborating everything again.

I’m a new user, just set up HASS and this integration (hats off to you and thank you so very much).
Re #3, then Drayton is creating its own Zigbee network and I just created my own own Zigbee network with and coordinator. I instantly noticed the iTRVs are not detected themselves as end devices. If that’s the case…

  1. *We connect to the hub by WiFi, but even without Internet, everything would still work locally. Correct?
  2. *The iTRVs and our other Zigbee devices will never mix since they stand on different networks. Won’t this cause any troubles or interferences? Not really sure how these Zigbee networks operate tbh.

Many thanks.

  1. Correct. It’s local and works without the internet.
  2. Yes, the Wiser hub creates it’s own Zigbee network. Unfortunately, you can’t specify the channel, but it supposedly scans to choose the channel that’s least congested at setup. If you’ve not got a complicated (many device) separate Zigbee network you can always change the channel on that. See previous posts regarding interference between Zigbee and WiFi at 2.4GHz.
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To add to what @robertwigley said, the two Zigbee networks are likely using different channels, if your non-Wiser one was up and running when the Wiser system was set up. This being the case, there won’t be interference between the two.

There is a chance that your 2.4 GHz wifi network will overlap with one or both of the zigbee networks. Here are how the channels correspond (Zigbee channel numbers are not the same as 2.5):

Image pinched from MetaGeek article

Assuming that you need 2.4 GHz WiFi, the best situation is where your Zigbee network and the Wiser network use channels 25 and 26, and you configure your access point(s) not to use channel 11.

To find the channel Wiser is using, look at sensor.wiser_heathub_signal in Developer Tools > States - look for the zigbee_channel attribute. If you are using ZHA for your other zigbee network, find it in Settings > Devices and Services > Zigbee Home Integration > Configure - it is in the Network Settings panel under Channel.

My Wiser hub chose channel 24. To be honest, I ended up not avoiding channel 11 with my access points, and I haven’t noticed any major issues, so it may just be FUD - but your mileage may vary…

@jamiebennett does the hub support channel 26, and is there any way to get my Wiser network migrated to it?

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For those of you using Wiser Insights+ you might be interested in the GeoHome integration available through HACS which brings the energy usage data into HA where you can use it in the Energy dashboard or in automations, other dashboards etc. It is a lot easier to set up than the manually coded way I had been using previously, and has entities for daily/weekly/monthly expenditure. It now handles changes to the system_id - something that happened to me when I reset my Geo Trio.

Ciao all, putting in the loop @Angelo_Santagata as i believe from his name he’s most probably at least native from my home country (italy) :slight_smile:

I’m getting to finalize my setup where, like many other the primary goal is to install TRV , where i found SE quite robust and cost effective, while defining if i’d like to go for link or integration .

My boiler setup is an HP so i’m not really looking into direct control via the heat HUB, so i might not need it unless, what i’m not 100% sure, hence i ask the GURU’s of this section is…

which one is the unit linking the WLAN with the “proprietary” zigbee in the Drayton setup?

Is that the Heat HUB (1 or 2 chans guess does not really matter) or the Thermostat?
IF that’s the Heat HUB then i’ll need to buy it even if i will not "actively " use it on the boiler itself.

many thanks for your feedback.

Marco.

Yes please share the YAML for your mini-graph. It looks exactly what I am trying to achieve!

It is the heat hub you need to control the trvs and connect WiFi.

Do you know if im able to use 3rd party range extender? One of my TRV’s is bit far from the hub and started to see it as “NO SIGNAL”. I know that there is a Smart plug but its a UK standard and i need it for EU socket, its expensive and i dont need another smart plug.

Unfortunately only the Wiser ones pair with the hub as far as I can tell.

If this started to happen recently you might want to look at the ZigBee channel used by wiser and sources of interference that you can control - i.e. 2.4 GHz WiFi channels you are using or a non Wiser ZigBee network.

I have another zigbee network with coordinator and router. Its created by sonoff usb 3 dongle plus and is using Z2M but im not sure if i can use it for Wiser.

I’ve noticed recently that a heating rate score and comfort mode score are exposed in HA which I am guessing are used for eco mode and comfort mode. I was wondering whether these values are ever recalculated or not since the thermal characteristics of most of my rooms has changed a lot in the last couple of years due to increased insulation and some other work. If these aren’t dynamic, how can they be reset causing as little disruption as possible?

Check the channels used by all your ZigBee networks, as mentioned in this post and also whether they overlap with channels being used by WiFi in the vicinity. I’m not saying it is a solution for you, but it is a relatively easy check.

Thanks, ill check. Meanwhile i received HA Low battery notification from this TRV. I used the brand new batteries provided with the kit which i bought 3 days ago…

Second question - how do you create those cards with diagrams of demands+targets?

Is there a way for TVR to open and close based on schedule, but don’t demand heat?
In my case I’ve found out that boiler works way more efficient if I have some rooms with mechanical TRVs - if boiler is on and rooms are too cold they get some heat, but don’t trigger boiler to fire by themselves.

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It’s just a History Graph and you select climate.YOUR_ROOM as entity

I came across this post on the Wiser forum. One poster mentions that the valves controlled by Wiser iTRVs are either fully open or fully closed (other than when they’re in the process of transitioning from one state to the other). This surprises me. If so, surely it would mean alot more valve activity to regulate temperatures.