Energy: water usage

+1 for this :slight_smile:
Water could be expressed in m3 as gas or liter. In Italy, we use m3 btw for consumptions and billing.

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+1 as well!
Implementation should be similar to the gas usage, except the type of course.

Unless you have a cold fusion reactor in your basement water isn’t energy and thus will be very unlikely to be included in the energy dashboard.

Even a micro-hydro generator will be monitored in terms of kWh not m3.

I would also like to have water in this dashboard by default.

I believe the whole idea about the Energy dashboard is to give insight into usage. And also, where you may possibly save money or become more “green”. I think giving insight into water usage can definately help with this.

Instead of calling the dashboard “Energy”, I would suggest calling it “Utility”. And within that, show “Electricity”, “Gas”, and “Water”.

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i’m with Bolderbas, for me the energy is an overview page of my consumption of the resources i’, using.

Electricity, gas and water.

so please add water to the dasboard.

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So open a feature request asking for a “Utilities” page rather than an “Energy” page.

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The day the energy dashboard was introduced, I ordered a SlimmeMeter. It’s working fabulous and it gives me good insights in my usage. Because of that I also ordered a Watermeter reader from SmartGateways.nl (see Watermeter Gateway - SmartGateways.nl) and that one is also working very nice. I really like to have one dashboard where I can see all power, gas and water usage. So I also hope this request will be honored.

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Maybe we could join forces in Energy Management - Rain Water - #4 by kamaradclimber

FYI, posted a related feature request to ESPHome for reading Kamstrup smart water flow meters via IR:

They also have a related feature reqqest for reasong SML (Smart Message Language) protocol reading:

Done so here now:

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if you produce your hot water with a solar collector, then its indeed a thermal energy that can be evaluated using waterflow (gl/min) and temperature in and out.

Not the same request as we are talking about buying and consuming water as a utilities (from water utility companies) just as you buy and consume electricity from a power company. See this thread:

https://community.home-assistant.io/t/rename-the-energy-dashboard-to-utility-to-make-it-include-readings-for-all-public-utility-resources-including-electricity-gas-heating-and-water/338847

That follows idea that a utility is a utility, so should not matter if utility is energy, gas, water, or heating.

Also see https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/utility_meter/

"The utility meter integration provides functionality to track consumptions of various utilities (e.g., energy, gas, water, heating).

From a user perspective, utility meters operate in cycles (usually monthly) for billing purposes. This sensor will track a source sensor values, automatically resetting the meter based on the configured cycle. On reset an attribute will store the previous meter value, providing the means for comparison operations (e.g., “did I spend more or less this month?”) or billing estimation (e.g., through a sensor template that multiplies the metered value per the charged unit amount).

Some utility providers have different tariffs according to time/resource availability/etc. The utility meter enables you to define the various tariffs supported by your utility provider and accounts your consumptions in accordance. When tariffs are defined a new entity will show up indicating the current tariff. In order to change the tariff, the user must call a service, usually through an automation that can be based in time or other external source (eg. a REST sensor)."

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I came to the forums to post on this same request. Through the power of search, I found this thread.

I’m using the Energy DB to track my resource consumption for environmental purposes. I have electric w/ Sense and template sensors to render on the Energy DB and am using that to better understand where I have vampire devices and the energy impact of doing things via appliance vs. by hand (dishwasher cycle ends, heated dry turns on. What’s the environmental & financial cost of that?)

I’m still trying to figure out how to read my gas meter (Nicor, IL) but in the absence of that - I’ll try to extrapolate from my electic usage on gas fed devices.

I’m treating water like I do electric and gas - something to minimize and it would be great to have it along side the other utilities.

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With the following addon of [email protected],
Git Repo: Work in progress of Darkrain
and a configuration trick I get the following:

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due to the trick Water is represented as Gas. :wink:

I would love to see a “native” integration of water (metering). I’ve setup everything using utility_meter and it works fine on top of my MQTT sensor. Still I believe it should be same top level item like gas or energy. Considering gas and water might be much simpler compared to energy it seems to be a good one to add.

Here is a screenshot of how I’m using right now:

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Awesome! May I ask how it is configurated?

René

Hi Rene,

I’ve just posted a summary here Water metering using Sensus HRI, libmbus, MQTT and Utility Meter integration

Bests
Jens

One more thing to add, I’ve created Add water/fluids to available device classes · Issue #697 · home-assistant/architecture · GitHub to (maybe) get water as supported device class, similar like gas. Please add you comments / thoughts / feedback! Thanks a lot!

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I totally agree that it would be nice to have a water meter added to the energy dashboard! I hope this will be possible in the further.

Suggest you guys also vote here → https://community.home-assistant.io/t/rename-the-energy-dashboard-to-utility-to-make-it-include-readings-for-all-public-utility-resources-including-electricity-gas-heating-and-water/338847