ESP in a separate network from HA

[Prem (Anders)]

Want a solution on how to connect an ESP in an IP network that is separate from Home Assistant

Examples HA in network 192.168.1.20/24 and ESP in network 172.16.7.93/24.

The networks have IP contact with each other.

HA can ping esp but can not connect

[tom_l]

You cant allow mDNS between networks (or even subnets) so you must use a static ip address and manually configure the device in HA (no discovery)

See:

https://esphome.io/guides/faq.html#notes-on-disabling-mdns

[Prem (Anders)]

Thanks for the help!

I choose to rethink and re-evaluate my needs.

[tom_l]

You can do this, you just need to use static IP address (or addresses reserved in DHCP) for your ESP devices and to enable ping instead of mdns online detection. Then when you want to add a new device manually select the integration in Configuration / Devices / Add Integration and specify the IP address of the device.

[Prem (Anders)]

Here’s how I solved it:

Home assistant IP 192.168.1.20
ESP32 IP 172.16.7.93
IP contact between the networks

ESP32 Configuration

wifi:
ssid: “”
password: “”
manual_ip:
static_ip: 172.16.7.93
gateway: 172.16.7.1
subnet: 255.255.255.0

Home Assistant Configuration

Configuration / Devices & Services / Add Integration “esphome” and specify the IP address of the device (172.16.7.93)

Device is “visible” in Configuration / Devices & Services, not in ESPHome on the left side.

Ping to the device and a status interface

configuration.yaml

binary_sensor:
  - platform: ping
  host: 172.16.7.93
  name: "Remotely connected esp32"
  count: 2
  scan_interval: 10

template:

• sensor:
  • name: ESP32 Remote
    unique_id: binary_sensor.esp32_remote
    icon: >
    {% if is_state(“binary_sensor.remotely_connected_esp32”, “on”) %}
    mdi:antenna
    {% else %}
    mdi:access-point-off
    {% endif %}
    state: >
    {% if is_state(“binary_sensor.remotely_connected_esp32”, “on”) %}
    Connected
    {% else %}
    Disconnected
    {% endif %}

[Balxur (Trevor Green)]

I’m trying to sort out the same issue.

I’ve added the ping to the HA configuration.yaml, but it doesn’t seem to help the status in ESPHome
In mine:

HA is 10.0.0.200
ESP is 10.30.0.22
Both can interact network wise fine

Status for the binary sensor shows ‘Connected’ as a Lovelace card.
The ESPHome Device is named esphome-web-68bdec

ESPHome Device YAML

  manual_ip:
    static_ip: 10.30.0.1
    gateway: 10.30.0.254
    subnet: 255.255.255.0

HA YAML

  - platform: ping
    host: 10.30.0.1
    name: "esphome-web-68bdec"
    count: 2
    scan_interval: 10

I have the device adopted in ESPHome (just sows offline) and can update it wirelessly just fine.
I have the device and it’s entities also added in. This all works fine - the statuses coming and the outputs get there without any issues. If it wasn’t for ESPHome just showing this is disconnected, I’d quite happy with the integration.

Side Note:
Not sure why this is not done more, I personally feel people are crazy to allow IoT devices on the main network. I have all mine on a subnet that is setup so only certain devices can get to the web, none of them can get to the main network (allowing only connections to HA) and none of the IoT devices can reach each other.

[tom_l]

@Balxur

I’ve added the ping to the HA configuration.yaml, but it doesn’t seem to help the status in ESPHome

Wrong ping. Ignore Prem’s post and do this instead:

Go to Settings → Add-ons → ESPHome add-on. Click the Configuration tab at the top of the page. Turn on the “Use ping for status” switch.

[Balxur (Trevor Green)]

Well, sh*t
You’re now my favorite Tom
Works great! Thanks!

[Balxur (Trevor Green)]

Question Tom,

This worked great for the connection and recognition of the device sitting on a different subnet, but now when I configure a new device (adding it to the same network subnet as HA is on for initial config), it never appears in ESPHome to adopt.

I can get this going by turning off the “Use ping for status” while adding a new ESP32, then turning it back on after I get the static IP setup.

This just the the way it is then? Just a ‘one or the other’ type of situation?
I’m happy either way as this is a minor inconvenience, just curious if I’m missing something here

[tom_l]

@Balxur

it never appears in ESPHome to adopt.

Add the yaml config file for the device in config/esphome.

[Balxur (Trevor Green)]

Interesting. I will give that a try then when I add my next one.
Thanks again Tom

[tom_l]

All your yaml files for your devices should be in there. Where are you keeping them?

[JeeCee (Jeroen)]

You can, just not with a default “home” router.
For instance, pfSense / OPNSense have the “avahi” plug-in, which forward the mDNS packets across subnets.
Works flawlessly!

[Balxur (Trevor Green)]

I can’t believe I completely forgot about Avahi.
I implemented that years ago in one of my client networks and it did work flawlessly.

Added it to my pfSense. Thanks JeeCee!

[andynbaker (Andy)]

+1 for Avahi on pfsense. I keep all my esp devices on a subnet with just about no access to anything else, and then repeat the mdns packets to my LAN so HA can pick it up.

[hiteshkher]

In my case not working what are i mising ?

HA configuration.yaml

binary_sensor:
  - platform: ping
    host: 192.168.68.105
    name: "esp32 test11"
    count: 2
    scan_interval: 10

ESPhome configuration.yaml

manual_ip:
  static_ip: 192.168.68.105
  gateway: 192.168.68.1
  subnet: 255.255.255.0

esp32 test11
Disconnected

[Balxur (Trevor Green)]

Is this throwing an error?
Yaml looks fine.

What are you trying to accomplish here?

You may find what Tom posted as a good solution.

ESP in a separate network from HA

Wrong ping. Ignore Prem’s post and do this instead: Go to Settings → Add-ons → ESPHome add-on. Click the Configuration tab at the top of the page. Turn on the “Use ping for status” switch. [Untitled]