EU hardware electrically certified

Hi everybody, I was looking for some power strips to buy in order to replace my non domotic ones, also replacing the really bad Antela power strip (I guess is the worst on the market here). Do you have any suggestion? I was looking on blakadder but every power strip is chinese and they are famous for copying the CE brand and dont even trying to certified so I dont really want to come back one day and find my house on fire :slight_smile: Do you have some suggestions?
Thank you

CE is no brand or certification. It’s nothing more than a self declaration.

Read the following important note:

Please note that a CE marking does not indicate that a product have been approved as safe by the EU or by another authority.

Devices with and without CE sign on it should use non flammable (often toxic) material.

You will have a hard time finding anything that is not produced in china. Please tell us if you are lucky!

This is very funnily written. So according to the EU website,

They signify that products sold in the EEA have been assessed to meet high safety, health, and environmental protection requirements

a manufacturer declares that the product meets all the legal requirements for CE marking and can be sold throughout the EEA

And then comes the bomb that pretty much leaves the CE as a marking of “meet legal requirements” concerning safety.

CE marking does not indicate that a product have been approved as safe by the EU or by another authority

I would love to know the difference between “approved as safe” vs “legal requirements as assessed high safety”.

Well, at least they should use non-flammable material.
So the CE is more or less useless.
Then I wasnt clear about the chinese product. I know that every product is made in china but I meant if you know some products that are design in EU, then if it is assembled in china doesnt matter

For customers yes, for traders no

Anyway, do you know if there are some power strip noteworthy?

It’s pretty much a “question” for Google or Wikipedia

Here is a url, to start with, list your own quality/security preferences and search
Some just buy cheap, and handle with care and common sense, some buy expensive, however the way they use these electrical equipment variate , some “overload” an i.e “strip” others flip it on/off 20-30 times a day. stuff it into a cabinet, with alot of other equipment in one pile off mess of cables and Devices, and whatever
Statistically, i doubt power-strips is in the top of causes , for burning down a house.

The url provides some “info” in regards to what you could think about, as preferences and requirements, for your Power-Strips

Me i just buy cheap “Tuya based”

You didnt post any url.
But okay I got the message

Bummer :laughing: … here it comes

You could always use a smart plug from a respectable European brand, or even the well-known non-EU brands. If you buy them in a respectable european (web)shop, you can usually be sure that the device will be safe.

Wrt the CE marking; this is indeed a self-certification. However, when applying this marking, the vendor could be held liable if he cannot prove that the device does indeed pass the required tests in case something would happen. Additionally, anyone importing goods from outside the EU holding such marking gets in this liability chain, and thus typically will request certification/test results. That’s why you’re usually safe when buying repurable chinese brands from reputable EU webshops, as they will usually buy their good via large importers that will make sure they have all the regulatory stuff sorted out.

In the end, countries like China make tons of high-quality stuff, often for EU brands. They are perfectly capable of building high quality and safe stufd that pass any CE test with perfect scores. However, there is plenty of garbage out there,. So if it is cheap-ass, and you can only buy it through aliexpress/ebay/amazon, make sure to do your research.

Haha, that website. That would be a no-go for me. Sounds like a lot of marketing nonsense to be.

You could take a look at:

They might not shio to your location, or in a different language, but the mentioned brands or listed product might give you a start.

If you actually need power strips with individual switchable sockets, I don’t know a brand, bit personally I find individual sockets easier to use (albeit a tad more expensive)

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Haha yeah, beside it’s VERY “bad/basic” website look, it does sounds like alot of BS, and the design of the devices match the “look” of the website.

Nedis makes(sells) Powerstrips, with 3plugs and a 4xUSB, all 4-entities can be manage individual, also with timer and countdown ( the last 2 i avoided to install, don’t find any need for that )
I Have 4 of these Power-Strips, added in Tuya-Smart APP, and integrated in Local-Tuya, 2 years old by now, no issues at all ( Only - is maybe that the 4xUSB is in 1 entity, so it’s all on/off )

And for the record, I have no idea what kind of “plastic” they are made of etc, They are sold here in Sweden, not that that is a guaranty of the CE “Marked” nor the quality ( Nedis is most likely in the lower end of quality, in common), but these ( with no energy-monitoring) works to my satisfaction

As You see Known Brand, Docs in a variation of languages … judge for your self.
I live in a wooden house, firewood heated(among other sources), however neither the Heating-Pan and Open stow, nor my 4 Extensions Power-strips is a source of my worries, whether my house would burn down
( PS: I also have 3 Nedis Outdoor 3860W plugs(with energy-meter), 1 doesn’t show anything, However they are not the newest “production-scope” , i assume they also “improve” their products… atleast when/if they gets alot reclaims … :slight_smile:

If nedis sells them, I’d trust them. Nedis might be on the lower quality end of things, but they also supply to other EU companies, so I figure they’ll have their stuff sorted out.

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Also many people like to plug one socket after another even though some specification (schuko/vde) does specially mention to not do this (and plugs/extensions have this regular written on the device).

As an example - this scenario here is an absolute violation of the schuko standard (the plug type used)

For me it is just esphome compatible hardware as it easily allows to add over power/current/voltage “protection” (more like a safety turn off actually) in software. For example all 16A rated sockets will be auto turned off with a load of 10A already, obviously I don’t run higher loads on them.

With or without CE hardware can fail - specially when handled wrong!

What do you mean esphome compatible hardware? I can purchase some power strip and then put in front an esphome to check the power/current/voltage? Sorry but Im relatively new and curios

You install esphome directly on the plug/strip/… and replace what ever tuya/sonoff/shelly software was running before.

Compatible are mostly devices based on espressif chips like esp32 or esp8266 or some newer ones found in many tuya products like beken or realtek.

Depending on the unit - esphome can be installed over the air on the device or it might be necessary to open a case and connect a serial adapter for the first install.

Devices with esphome pre installed are also sold, for example https://www.athom.tech/esphome

Oh ok you’re talking about flashing the firmware devices with ESPHome.

I didint know about athom… There is also the “everything presence” fake version that I want to try.
So I could try to open up my power strip and check what is on board. Tomorrow Im gonna check it, thanks again