For lamps: ZWave or ZIgbee/Hue style?

I have now 9 Hue bulbs, but I have some remarks:

  • is NOT rock solid, I think it has to do with a non perfect WiFi (interference mainly) and also the philips hue bridge software and app, which is not super responive and still buggy (when I open the app I need to wait 1 to 3 seconds before it connects, after a while it gets annoying, I am trying now to put all commands in HA)

  • young family members still prefer the regular switch, and just occasionaly like to use a smartphone or Alexa/GH. Grandma prefers … well you know.

From my understanding the ZWave (like Fibaro Dimmer 2)

  • you put inside the switch so you have both systems; regular switch + HA automation

  • less frequency congestions then WiFi, so better coverage overall

Is my understanding correct?

With Z-wave you might have gaps in coverage, and to fix this you will need to get “repeaters”. Also, you’d need a neutral wire running to the switch itself, which you might not have.

Some always-powered Z-wave devices (i.e. wall plugs, sensors) will act as a repeater and I’ve also seen there are dedicated repeaters.

I haven’t tried Z-wave switches myself because they all require a neutral wire running to the switch, which my wiring doesn’t provide.

I am not an electrician, but you can’t simply attach the neutral to the screw of the plate?

The neutral wire has to be connected to the neutral wire of the building :slight_smile:

The norm in Europe is to have the neutral wire for a light bulb connected directly to the light bulb and not wire the switch with a neutral, only with a phase. Hence I don’t have a neutral wire to attach to the plate. After reading a bit about it, it seems in the US is more common to have neutral and phase to switches, but this is something you need to check for. So far I haven’t seen battery-powered z-wave switches.

I am in europe too

I think is this one

If I am not mistaken Zigbee of philips is 2,4Ghz, while ZWave is around 850Mhz so the coverage of ZWave should be much much better

As well as less interference from 2.4 Ghz wifi and microwaves.

Hi!

The fibaro dimmer2 can be used without neutral wire aka 2 wire system. See page 9 http://www.fibaro.com/manuals/en/FGD-212/FGD-212-EN-T-v1.0.pdf

I do this myself and is why I use fibaro over qubino.

Regards s

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