HI Rich
how are you getting the octopus heat on/off are you using a sensor to turn on when the octopus agile unit rate is low, that is if your using octopus agile tarrif
Hi, found my way here looking for a way to directly interface with the intouch2 unit. Mine came “BU Touch” branded from Bain Ultra. I can connect to it and control it with their app, and just signed up for a Gecko account and installed the in.touch2 app and I can connect with it, but not control anything. (It seems like perhaps the main app is more geared toward controlling full temperature-controlled spa tubs, whereas the BU tubs are focused more on controlling the air jets and such) Seems like it might be an interesting way to further pick apart the device since the number of interactions and options are so much more limited.
I have got the integration working (in.touch 2) but I find the information confusing.
Firstly, we only use the spa in weekends (holiday home), therefore I programmed the weekender preset to start heating from Saturday morning until sunday evening. The android app previously displayed cooling to 19 degrees (the controller automatically set this target when spa is scheduled not to heat). Unfortunately, the android app stopped working. I have to be in the same network to reconfigure - which is not going to happen until next weekend.
I am guessing the below meant that the spa temperature will go down to the target temperature of 19 degrees (the controller automatically set this target when spa is scheduled not to heat) . The below meant that the target temperature is 30 degrees on weekends, weekdays will be 19 degrees?
Is there a sensor to display the target temperature, rather than the setpoint?
Below sensors/switches were generated. I don’t understand some of these
I will check which one is which (ie: blower, Pump 1, waterfall) next time I’m at the house
Ozone, this one is always showing “Off”. I don’t think it should be the case as Watercare turns ON everyday for a number of hours
is there a way to change the presets in the HA integration. The Android app has the function to change the preset (eg: weekender)? Or can it only be done by automation/schedule in HA?
The temperature attributes are in a climate template. See below. For the meanings of the other exposed entities, it’s a case of trying each one to check on their function. Controllers can be a random in how they expose their functions and HA has only a limited number of entity types. For example, the Gecko controller we have exposes the jets with 3 states - OFF, LOW & HIGH, even though ‘LOW’ is never used or exposed. HA doesn’t have a 3-state switch, so Gazoodle has used the ‘Fan’ entity for those. To address them, the code will be something like this:
Personally, I’d use standard mode and create automations to adjust the setpoint as you wish, but that’s just me. I trust Home Assistant more than I trust Gecko!
I upgraded to have HA available through Nabu Casa to override settings wherever I am. Even if an automation goes wrong I can remotely change whatever I need.
Climate template:
sensor:
- platform: template
sensors:
spa_temperature:
friendly_name: Spa Temperature
value_template: '{{ states.climate.ducky_tub_heater.attributes.current_temperature }}'
unit_of_measurement: °C
spa_setpoint:
friendly_name: Spa Setpoint
value_template: '{{ states.climate.ducky_tub_heater.attributes.temperature }}'
unit_of_measurement: °C
Oh - a note on ozone. Very few tubs have an integrated Gecko ozonator. It’s far more likely to be a generic generator linked to the circulation pump. The Gecko controller doesn’t know it’s there. Same with filtering - the majority of tubs have suction through the filter whenever the circulation pump is running.
Thanks for the info. I’m hoping to have a bit more time this weekend to check on these entities.
Yes. I am considering using standard and creating automations if the controls are not working as I expected it to be.
I am not using Nabu Casa but have duckdns and reverse proxy configured for remote connectivity. Apologies, I meant the in-touch android app that stopped working remotely. It’s stuck looking for the spa.
I didn’t know about the ozone. Again, thanks for the info.
More importantly, is it possible to display the state in the card. ie: in the more info it is showing “Cooling to target”. I can’t seem to find a way to display that in the card.
I think having the card look like the popup is still being worked on. In the meantime though, you could create a vertical stack of 2 cards, put the climate card in the top one and then put a template card containing {{(state_attr('climate.hot_tub_heater', 'hvac_action')) }} (Which would give you the word ‘cooling’ here)
Thanks. I used a combination of button card (container) and mushroom climate card instead.
tap action, navigates to another page with all thermostat card and other sensors. Just realised I was using the better thermostat card. the HA thermostat card shows the status now.
You could also try the tile card as they added the ability to show the presets
type: tile
entity: climate.hot_tub_heater
features:
- type: target-temperature
- type: climate-preset-modes
style: dropdown
preset_modes:
- Away From Home
- Standard
- Energy Saving
- Super Energy Saving
- Weekender
I really am lost with all these instructions. I set up HA mainly for spa control, or atleast hoped so. I’m super noob or becoming too old to understand all this.
Spa control is in.touch2 and i have the HACS @gazoodle version. I can fiddle with the temperature but not the way i was dreaming.
I tried to install Nordpool and hoped to make easy automation with HA to follow the price and heat when its cheap. Did not work.
I tried to follow your guidelines here but my basic knowledge is too low for this subject and i get more diizzy everytime I try to start over investigating how to complete this.
So what I thought I could make on my own was:
Easy way to set manual “boost” times just by looking Nordpool (usual times are the night times in Finland when price is at 1-4 cent €)
Easy way to set the temperature of the spa drop to cooling by daytime or the mornings.
My tariff is a time-of-day thing, so it’s very easy, but I’d suggest that if the NordPool pricing is generally low at night, then just use a time based approach. It might not fully optimise things, but heating the tub to maximum overnight and then letting it coast down is a very economical way to run it. We estimate we save around 50% of the cost versus using a single setpoint continuously. We pay 7.5p overnight and 21p during the day.
