Grouping my Phillips Hue kitchen lights 6 ceiling 3 cupboard and 1 back light help pls

I am new to Home Assistant and on a steep learning curve, not even sure what I want is even possible. I want a box named Kitchen within that box another named Ceiling Lights that contains my 6 ceiling Lights then in the Kitchen box another box named Cupboard Lights that contains my 3 Cupboard Lights and lastly in the kitchen box another box Kitchen Light which wold contain the Kitchen Light.

I would then tap Kitchen>Ceiling Lights which would then turn on all the Ceiling lights or tap Kitchen>Cupboard which would turn on my Cupboard lights, same with Kitchen Light.

Is this possible, how would you/I do it.

You will need to create groups in the HUE app and use those to call them from HA.

Due to the way Zigbee works you should not make groups in HA itself.

Interesting. I’ve been using groups as I like the ability to nest groups of groups into kitchen counter, within kitchen, within downstairs, within lights.

I hadn’t read that hue native groups were better than HA’s equivalents. Is the thought that all bulbs within a hue group can be targeted with a single message rather than sending to every member? Some of my groups have non hue lights within them, so it might be a case of using groups that include hue groups, perhaps?

Yes, this can lead to nodes not responding due to heavy traffic.
So yes make your HUE groups and include that group in the HA group… group within a group within… nope, i’m gonna wake up now. :stuck_out_tongue:

Its pretty much the same for every communication bus i know, be it wireless or wired.
They all prefer you use groups for larger number of lights instead of calling each 1 after one another.
Ziggbee, Zwave, KNX, Dali ect

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This sounds like a Lovelace requirement rather than anything to do with groups or integrations.

Create Lovelace dashboard called Kitchen (Configuration|Lovelace Dashboards|Add Dashboard).

Go to the new dashboard, click the three dots top right and select Edit Dashboard.

For each of the three groups of lights, click Add Card and select Entities Card. Give each card the appropriate title, add the entities for the appropriate Lights and make sure Show Header Toggle is on - this will allow all the lights in the card to be switched on and off together.

After that, if you want to get clever with layout, you can experiment with putting the three entities cards inside a vertical stack card, a horizontal stack card or a grid card.

Thanks guys managed to get it how I liked using entity cards, I’m sure I will be have lots of questions adding the rest of my lights comer’s sensors ect