HA stops work every Monday

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What is your network setup? Looks like you have at least three VLANs (or two, with very large subnets).

192.168.178
172.30
172.17

When things go offline, I always suspect network issues: duplicate IP address allocation, bad routing etc.

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192.168.178 is my home network indeed. Iā€™m not having any VLANs (AFAIK) and to be honest I do not even know what that exactly are, nor do I exactly know what subnets are. It seems to me that the 172. addresses are some kind home assistant internal addresses. Iā€™m quite sure I have no duplicate IP address allocations.

Last Monday and Tuesday were really bad. Home assistant crashed after 1 or 2 hours of operation every time. Tuesday evening I did a fresh re-install on a brand new SD card and restored my snapshot of Sunday evening. Within one hour it crashed again, but after a restart is has been running stable so far. Iā€™m curious what will happen Monday morning.

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It crashed again last night :frowning_face:
@Harmpert, Thanks for your list of hardware, integrations and add-ons. The Items you have and I also have are: raspberry PI 3B, HACS, Mobile App(both android and iOS in my case), Philips HUE, DuckDNS, file editor, Samba share, terminal & SSH

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@Plevuus, Indeed, mine crashed again last night too. Itā€™s behavior is at least predictable.

@DomJo, Did you have any new insights?

@captain_daveman, any similarity in your setup compared to mine or Plevuus?

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Another Monday crash for me too, this time slightly earlier than usual. The last log/history entries I can see are for 00:10 (usually itā€™s more like 01:30).
In terms of what Iā€™ve got installed in common with Plevuus above, itā€™s a Pi 3B, HACS, Mobile App, file editor, Samba and SSH.
For my network, I have an Asus modem/router (I mention this as the issues started happening at about the same time I bought it.) Iā€™ve not setup up any VLANs or special subnets (just using standard 255.255.255.0)

I struggle to believe that any of the above are causing the issue otherwise thereā€™s be a lot more people complaining!

Just crashed again too - probably something corrupted due to having to pull the plug this morning.

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Iā€™ve changed the system in the meantime and now use OH3. For me, home automation has to run reliably and not stop every week. But I still read with interest because I think HA is very nice

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homeassistant stop again, it works but it is not accessible in supervisor all addons stop working, hacs not accessible but addons frontend working

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Yep, Mine also crashed again last night. There was no useful info from the log. This time HA frontend was still available and even the history graphs were showing (latest update 2:38 am). Supervisor page was not working and also SSL and Samba were down.
Last week I did some improvements in the network setup (port forwarding, removal of depreciated base_url from configuration.yaml), switched for the general setup (location, time-zone, URL, etc) from configuration.yaml to UI and made some other improvements in configuration.yaml, so that no configuration related warnings showed up in the log anymore. It didnā€™t solve the issue.

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@Plevuus @nelsonamen ,mine crashed last night too, last update around 1:52 AM.

@tom_l, would you have any suggestions on this? Might there be an addon/integration that is doing someting for the week startup/cleanup of the last week?
We can rule out the automations, I donā€™t have one running at that time,
We do not have the same routers (mine is a fritz!box 7590).

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@tom_l, question to you as a moderator. Would it make sense to officially report this issue?
Multiple users have this issue and it seems weā€™ve done what we can do ourselves. At least I did.

The only option I see left for myself is to start again from scratch with a new installation and slowly week by week build up my system again and notice when the issue re-occurs. By doing it like that it will take weeks and quite likely it will not re-occur at all. In that case the other users will still be stuck with this issue.

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@Plevuus
I donā€™t think, an issue would do good at this time. Your (all of you) error isnā€™t specific enough, nor described enough. :slight_smile:

Letā€™s try it in a different way, good old support and error finding. :smiley: If we cn pinpoint the issue, that would be the time to post an issue at github. :slight_smile:

So letā€™s get to work and find something. :slight_smile:

These are questions to all of you, who have that problem:

  • what system are you running? (HassOS, python venv, supervised install) In short, how did you install HA?
  • what is the exact hardware you are running? Pi4 with 2GB? Pi 3B+? Please donā€™t forget to mention all things apart from the standard, eg. are you using an SSD or the microSD?
  • if youā€™re running a Pi, what power source are you using? We need the values here like Volt and Ampere from the power source.
  • are there any outside things that could cause this? Maybe the cat laying on your Pi every Monday? :wink:
  • Can someone provide a somewhat exact timeline of the issue? What I can see here, it seems not always to be the exact same time, but the better one of you could tell, when this happens, the easier we can find something.
  • Router could be an issue, so please provide the model. I personally donā€™t think it is, so this not a necessary information.

Just to note: Iā€™m not a developer of HA, I canā€™t guarantee any solutions, but Iā€™ll try my best, maybe someone steps in if we can narrow things down. :slight_smile: So no guarantees! :wink:

And last but not least, my guess goes straight to some OS level things that are done automatically. Monday morning is kind of a good date for any tasks you would like to run on a weekly basis. :slight_smile:

So letā€™s see where we are getting at with this, seems interesting to find out. :slight_smile:

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I already opened an issue HA stops work every Monday Ā· Issue #47928 Ā· home-assistant/core (github.com)

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What installation of HASS do you have?
(OS, Core, Docker etc)

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What type of installation are you running?
Home Assistant OS

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Then I canā€™t help youā€¦ Sorry, my thoughts were that something with crontab could be wrong :frowning:

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@tom_l is on a boat somewhere in the ocean atm and wonā€™t be back for a few months. As for that issue, itā€™s lacking any information, the likely hood of anything comming out of that is low. Please follow through with @paddy0174ā€™s questions and use that information in the issue.

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Is there a way where i can simulate sunday 00:00ā€¦ Change the clock and day

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Not using hassOS.

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If HA is still running but the frontend is accessable, why donā€™t you just create an automation that reboots or restarts the systemā€¦

- alias: Reboot Once A Week at 2am
  trigger:
    - platform: time
      at: '2:00:00'
  condition:
    - condition: time
      weekday:
        - mon
  action:
    - service: notify.xyz
      data:
        message: "Rebooting..."
    - service: hassio.host_reboot
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Sorry to step in here, @petro, but that is just a band aid, not a solution. :wink: :slight_smile:

If people here are interested in solving the problem, I refer to my previous post. We need to debug this, but as I can see, interest seems not overwhelming, as we now have eight replies and not one question is answeredā€¦ :slight_smile: