Has anyone validated that the new hassbian image is good?

Installation
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Have I misinterpreted the documentation describing Hass.io, specifically the fourth bullet point:

  • Free and open source
  • Optimized for embedded devices like Raspberry Pi
  • 100% local home automation
  • Easy installation and updates (powered by HassOS and Docker)

I believe I understand what you mean, Hass.io is the dockerized flavor of Home Assistant that runs on a lightweight operating system (HassOS). However, the impression one gets, or at least I do, is that the whole kit and kaboodle is referred to as Hass.io as a form of shorthand (even though there is a clear division of responsibility between the two). The impression is reinforced by the fact you download an image that contains both OS and app (in dockerized flavor).

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I don’t think you misinterpreted what they wrote, I think they just made a mistake phrasing it in a clumsy way like that.

They do seem to refer to RasPI builds as just "Hass.IO" which I think is confusing to new users because it gives the impression that it’s only for a Raspberry Pi, however I’m running it just fine inside Ubuntu on a NUC, as are many other people.

If they called it “HassOS (With Hass.IO installed)” I think that would be more clear, since Hass.IO doesn’t care what OS it’s running inside.

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Thanks, that is very helpful and on point with my concerns. Since I want to run this on a linux based OS do you recommend that I just install a basic version of Hassbian, and then download and install Home assistant separately after that install?

Also, I was trying to make a note on the Github link that something was wrong with that image and I’m not seeing a spot to do it :(.

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I agree with you 100%. I have (or rather had) Hass.io running on Ubuntu and that was an awakening because I originally assumed it was designed to run only on an RPi. So the docs did give me the incorrect impression that Hass.io and HassOS were inseparable and machine-specific.

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Maybe this?

You don’t use the links on the documentation pages to report issues with the software. The github links for documentation are for the documentation only

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If you’re comfortable with Docker, it’s a quick way to get started and lets you use Add-ons in the future if you choose to.

Simple install command for installing Hass.io on a Generic Ubuntu/Debian machine:

sudo -i
add-apt-repository universe
apt-get update
apt-get install -y apparmor-utils apt-transport-https avahi-daemon ca-certificates curl dbus jq network-manager socat software-properties-common
curl -sSL https://get.docker.com | sh
curl -sL "https://raw.githubusercontent.com/home-assistant/hassio-build/master/install/hassio_install" | bash -s

-From a gist by Frenck.

For installing Hass.io on a Linux system, that is actually it. At that point let it install and then you should be able to access it at it’s URL.

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Sorry but you are still screwing up the terminology and hence you are misunderstanding what you want to do.

Hassbian is literally just a Raspbian OS (based on linux Debian OS) that has the installation scripts for Home Assistant pre-installed so that as soon as you fire up the image it will download and install home assistant in all the correct locations with all of the correct permissions. If you truly are having permission issues then there is definitely something wrong with the image. Report it.

But to your statement above…

You do not need to install “hassbian”. You will need to install “raspbian” then decide how you want to install “Home Assistant”.

You can do that several ways:

  1. Manually install Home Assistant in a virtual environment.
  1. Install Home Assistant in a Docker container.
  1. Install Home Assistant by installing Hassio in Docker.

and that is only the three standard most popular ways people do it. There are a bunch of other install methods if none of the above work for you.

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Can we stop with these endless posts? @dsldsl1980 now has home assistant running on hassbian.

Let’s leave it at that, he can now play and start new threads on any further problems, which will be unrelated to this thread.