Heiman’s Upcoming Zigbee and Matter Devices – Looking for Home Assistant Community Feedback

New Zigbee smoke and CO alarms

Self test: It can be pressed to give an acoustic sound as well as a change in entity value

4-in-1 door and window sensor
For a window/door sensor humidity and temperature measurement seem better suited in a separate sensors.
I prefer to see object movement similar to the Aqara P100, so it’s not just a open/close sensor.

I look forward to the Wireless home safety solution products. I’ve been looking to move away from my old system but there aren’t many (available) options in my region which can be integrated into Home Assistant easily.

… or rather, Aqara has got some gotchas with Matter. Other vendors support OTA just fine, so it can be done with Matter, but not (to my knowledge) with the FP300 right now. Once that is fixed, I’ll gladly take it back into consideration, I quite like the device’s specs and design.

Thanks a lot for the detailed feedback — especially coming from someone running 200+ physical automation devices across so many different protocols. This kind of real-world prosumer feedback is extremely valuable to us.

The idea of adding presence detection to a wired smoke detector is very interesting. Since the device already has permanent power, combining additional sensing functions could help reduce the number of separate battery-powered devices on the wall. We will definitely discuss this internally.

For the 5-in-1 Presence Sensor, we understand the benefit of having an optional USB or low-voltage power input. The main concern from our side is installation aesthetics — in many cases, running a visible USB cable on the wall does not look very clean, especially for sensors mounted high up or in open areas. That said, for new builds, renovations, or places where low-voltage wiring is already available, an external power option can certainly make sense.

Regarding the dongle, we are actually only just getting started with our USB dongle products. We see this as a first step rather than the final form. In the future, we will also consider Ethernet / PoE versions, which would give users much more flexibility in coordinator placement. Ideally, a future version could support PoE while still allowing separate USB power when PoE is not available.

Yes, I completely understand — zones, coordinates, and room boundaries are very useful for more advanced presence automations.

For this product, we had to make some trade-offs between cost, power consumption, and functionality. At the moment, it supports presence/activity distance detection, but it does not support zone detection or reporting the person’s X-Y coordinates.

We do have another 60 GHz radar product designed for fall detection that supports more advanced positioning functions, including location/coordinate-related detection. However, the radar module and overall solution are significantly more expensive, so it is difficult to bring those features into this product while keeping the price reasonable.

We are still evaluating these kinds of features for future products though, especially if there is strong demand from Home Assistant users.

Got you! Hopefully we’ll have the right product for you well before 2029. Looking forward to seeing you then — or earlier! :slightly_smiling_face:

That’s a very fair point, and I agree that a T&H sensor mounted directly on a door or window should not be treated as a replacement for a properly positioned room temperature/humidity sensor.

One reason we added T&H is that a contact sensor is not necessarily only used on a door or window. In Home Assistant, people also use contact sensors on cabinets, drawers, storage boxes, equipment covers, garages, refrigerators, and many other places. In some of these applications, having temperature and humidity available from the same device can be quite useful and can enable more automation possibilities without installing another separate sensor.

For a sensor installed directly on an exterior window or door, I agree that the T&H readings can be influenced by both indoor and outdoor conditions, especially while it is open. So in that case we see the readings more as supplementary information rather than a precise room climate measurement.

It may still be useful for things such as local humidity changes, condensation risk, or detecting unusual environmental changes, but the value really depends on where and how the device is installed.

So our thinking is not simply “the chipset supports it, therefore we expose it”, but rather to give users some extra flexibility for different installation scenarios. That said, your “less is more” point is definitely valid, and feedback like this helps us judge which features are actually useful in real Home Assistant deployments.

Thanks。
yes, it equips with distance detection.

Exactly — that’s also one of the use cases we had in mind.

For interior doors, cabinets, storage areas, utility rooms, etc., combining contact detection with temperature and humidity can reduce the number of separate visible sensors and keep the installation cleaner.

We know T&H will not be equally useful in every installation, especially on exterior doors or windows, but for users who care about aesthetics and want to minimize the number of devices, having several functions in one sensor can be quite useful.

That flexibility is really the main reason we decided to include it.

Thank you very much for taking the time to write such detailed feedback. This is exactly the kind of discussion we hoped to have with experienced Home Assistant users.

We also believe Matter + Thread is an important direction for the smart home. The ability to mix products from different manufacturers and ecosystems, while keeping things local and avoiding unnecessary vendor lock-in, is one of the main reasons we are investing more in Matter products.

Regarding the 4-in-1 Door & Window Sensor, we agree that a temperature sensor mounted directly on an exterior window frame should not be considered a replacement for a properly positioned room temperature sensor.

At the same time, contact sensors are not necessarily used only on exterior doors and windows. People also use them on interior doors, cabinets, storage areas, equipment covers, garages, refrigerators, and many other places. Adding temperature and humidity gives users some additional possibilities without requiring another separate device.

Your condensation example is actually a very good one. Even if the temperature reading is affected by the window location, combining it with humidity and other room data can still provide useful information for dew-point or condensation-related automations. We see T&H more as supplementary information rather than the primary purpose of the device.

For the smoke and CO alarms, we completely agree with your most important point: reliability comes first .

These are safety products, so certification, predictable behavior, independent alarm operation, and reliable communication are much more important than simply adding more smart-home features.

Remote silence, self-test, alarm status, battery information, temperature, CO concentration, and siren-related functions are all functions that we want to expose as openly as possible instead of hiding everything behind our own app.

Your diagnostic suggestions are also very valuable:

  • Last self-test timestamp
  • Self-test result
  • Device health status
  • Fault history

For safety products, we agree that visibility into the device state is especially important.

Regarding the first-triggered alarm function, you make a good point. In Home Assistant, Areas, notifications, and event history already provide a lot of information. Storing the first-triggered device as persistent diagnostic information after an interconnected alarm event may be more useful than simply exposing another temporary state. We will think more about how this can best complement Home Assistant rather than duplicate information that is already available.

For CO concentration reporting, there is always a balance between reporting frequency, radio activity, and battery life. Configurable reporting behavior is definitely something worth considering, especially for advanced users who may prefer different trade-offs.

On the power side, we also agree that a safety alarm should never become dependent on household mains power alone. Battery-powered alarms have the important advantage of continuing to operate during a power failure. If we develop wired versions, backup power and independent alarm operation will remain important design considerations.

OTA is another area we care a lot about. We want users to have a practical way to maintain firmware over the lifetime of the product, and being able to deliver firmware updates through standard ecosystems such as Home Assistant is exactly the kind of experience we would like to provide.

We also strongly agree with your point that Matter should not become:

“basic functionality through Matter, advanced functionality only through the manufacturer’s own app.”

There will always be some limitations depending on what a Matter device type or platform currently supports, but where it is technically possible, we want useful functionality and diagnostics to be available through standard platforms such as Home Assistant, with local operation rather than unnecessary cloud dependencies.

Regarding the Matter Bridge, your assessment is very close to ours.

Supporting Zigbee or Sub-GHz products from many manufacturers is much more complicated than simply translating one protocol into another. Proprietary clusters, manufacturer-specific commands, unusual parameters, and different device behaviors can all create compatibility challenges.

For advanced Home Assistant users, the value may indeed be smaller because HA already does an excellent job of bringing multiple ecosystems together. We see a potentially larger use case for people who have existing Zigbee or Sub-GHz devices but want to bring them into Apple Home, Google Home, or other Matter ecosystems without replacing everything.

Thank you very much for the detailed feedback — a project with around 30 smoke alarms and 60 door/window sensors gives us a very useful real-world perspective.

Your preference for Matter/Thread is also very clear. We will continue supporting Zigbee, but Matter and Thread are an important part of our new product development.

For the HS1SA-M , we have already added both siren control and remote mute functionality. Replaceable batteries, long battery life, small size, reliable operation and OTA are also very important to us, especially for safety products.

Regarding OTA, our longer-term plan is that our Matter products should be able to receive firmware updates without requiring the Heiman Home app . We also prefer users to be able to manage devices directly through Matter ecosystems such as Home Assistant wherever the standard allows it.

For presence sensors, we understand the preference for battery operation and avoiding dependence on a vendor app. Power consumption is one of the main challenges with presence detection, so we are trying to find the right balance between functionality, battery life, size and cost.

Your comments about the door/window sensor are especially useful. With 60 devices, size, appearance, battery life and cost become much more important. We are aiming for a small and unobtrusive design, and your suggestion to allow unnecessary functions such as T&H or light reporting to be disabled is a good one, especially for reducing unnecessary reporting and power consumption.

As for availability in Europe, especially before November, I need to confirm the latest schedule internally before giving you an answer. I don’t want to promise a date before I know it is realistic. Around IFA we should also have a much clearer picture.

Yes, Matter OTA still has some ecosystem-specific limitations today.

For our products, protocol switching is designed so that it does not require the Heiman Home app. We also do not want to force users to install or keep our app just to use the device.

If someone wants to use Heiman Home, of course they can, but it should be optional rather than a requirement.

Our goal is to expose configuration, protocol switching, OTA and other useful functions through standard ecosystems wherever technically possible, especially for Home Assistant users.

Thanks for the feedback!

For the new Zigbee smoke and CO alarms, the self-test is not only an acoustic test — the test/status result is also exposed as an entity, so Home Assistant can know when a self-test is being performed and use that state in automations.

For the 4-in-1 door/window sensor, we understand the concern about temperature and humidity. We see those more as additional information rather than a replacement for a dedicated room T&H sensor.

We also agree that a contact sensor can be more useful if it can detect more than just open/close. That is one of the reasons we added vibration/movement detection, so it can also be used for detecting movement or tampering of a window, door, cabinet, etc, we will try to investigate on it.

And thanks for the feedback on the Wireless Home Safety Solution. Making these products easier to integrate into Home Assistant is one of the areas we are putting a lot of effort into.

We are also working to speed up our Amazon operations and our own Heiman online store, so hopefully it will become much easier to buy these products in more regions. We have only recently started putting more effort into the direct-to-consumer market, so this part is moving a little slower than our product development, but we are actively improving it.

Regarding multi devices, people need to remember that battery life plays a factor, the more things it does the more it will be in a wake state draining the battery.

This is where having the option to power directly via a near by power socket or via POE adapters will be the more optimal option.

As to market and region talk, there are limited options here in australia for most things and what we do have does not always have the RCM on it so its a balance act in finding things that are safe to use but also fits our needs long term.

Will those smoke / co alarms be available in Canada?