Home Assistant and Thread

[bbbdesign (Bryan Barnes)]

I have been using the Wemo Smart Plugs ( WSP80) to work with Home Assistant after hearing about Home Assistant a couple years ago via the TechPod podcast and it has worked great. I have display cabinet lighting set up and I have the light in my living room set up with Wemo to come on with the degree of the suns angle at night.

After hearing their interview with the head of HA on their companion podcast FossPod and the HomePod episode they did about Thread, I bought some WSP100 which use bluetooth/thread not WIFI thus don’t work with HA or even the WEMO app. The exclusively use Apple Home which is grossly inadequate compared to HA. Is there support or is there support coming for Thread in Home Assistant?

[FloatingBoater (James Derrick)]

Summary:

• Nabu Casa has announced SkyConnect hardware supporting both Zigbee and Thread at the same time.
• Thread is Zigbee with a different addressing scheme
• Apple Homekit support for Bluetooth devices is starting to work well, with more coming (see the 2022.08 release party video).

The epic Matter / Thread post has lots of information:

Matter in Home Assistant workshop announcement

[image] Matter is a new smart home standard that is scheduled to launch in fall. Across the industry, companies like Hue, IKEA, Google and Apple are working together to try and solve connectivity, ease of setup and interoperability once and for all. Development is happening as part of the Connectivity Standards Alliance (CSA) of which we (Nabu Casa) are also a participating member. We’ve been hard at work on Matter support for Home Assistant. The Home Assistant Yellow hub will come with …

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[bbbdesign (Bryan Barnes)]

so currently HA Yellow can connect to a thread network and the USB stick will do the same thing if plugged into a raspberry pi running HA in theory allow for thread enabled devices to be a part of HA?

[Hedda]

Also see Chip / Matter support (including Thread)

@bbbdesign

so currently HA Yellow can connect to a thread network and the USB stick will do the same thing if plugged into a raspberry pi running HA in theory allow for thread enabled devices to be a part of HA?

Home Assistant Yellow contains a UART/GPIO radio module based on the same type of Silicon Labs EFR32MG21 SoC that the Home Assistant SkyConnect USB Stick is based on, so yes they will be able to do the exact same thing, however, I believe that the Thread (and Matter over Thread) part is not ready for end-users as of yet, which I think is the reason why the Home Assistant SkyConnect USB Stick](Home Assistant SkyConnect USB Stick announced - will be compatible with both Zigbee and Thread (including Matter/CHIP over Thread)) has been made available for purchase as of yet. That is, right now I believe that the end-users who have already received their Home Assistant Yellow can only use the Zigbee part as of yet and not yet the Thread part? There are some development discussions between the developers here → https://github.com/zigpy/zigpy/discussions/894

[PureeTofu (Billy)]

Any update on how to connect Home Assistant to a Thread: Border Router?

I’m looking at something like Kirale’s Border Router:
https://www.kirale.com/products/ktbrn1/

Though I’ve read that Amazon Echo Show (latest generation) devices are also Thread: Border Routers.

[Hedda]

@PureeTofu

Any update on how to connect Home Assistant to a Thread: Border Router?

Only experimental support for the Home Assistant SkyConnect USB dongle yet when choose to enable it in their Silicon Labs multiprotocol addon which flash RCP Multi-PAN firmware → Home Assistant SkyConnect USB Stick announced - will be compatible with both Zigbee and Thread (including Matter/CHIP over Thread)

(low-level details in development discussions here → https://github.com/zigpy/zigpy/discussions/894)

[dv8 (Derek)]

Did you get the WSP100 to work with HAP over Thread using HomeKit Controller? I’m not able to connect to the WSP100 using the HoneKit Controller.