Home assistant OS not supported for Raspberry Pi 5

Hi

I am trying to move from Raspberry Pi 4 to 5.

I was able to install HA OS and restore a back-up and all works fine for a couple of hours. Then I realize my HA was down and see this screen:

I had to manually restart the Raspberry Pi, and it works ok, so i thought it was just a small glitch, but again after some minutes I got this:

any idea?

I assume is the installation was not ok it should never start home assistant…

FYI: I have a Zigbee sonoff dongle and a Z-Wave AEOTEC stick
verisn info:

  • Core 2024.9.3
  • Supervisor 2024.10.0
  • Operating System 13.1
  • Frontend 20240909.1

Meantime, I went back to Raspberry Pi 4…

thsnks in advance

Are you installing to an SD card or a USB SSD? I have a Pi5 running fine but there were a couple of tweaks along the way.

not a help per-se but my collegue has installed recently HA on rpi without problems.

Are you sure you downloaded a proper image for rpi?

@maxym good point about the image, there are a lot of them and it’s easy to pick the wrong one… RPI4 is a piece of cake for HAOS or any other flavor of HA.

RPI3 and RPI4 followed the same CPU architecture stack, but the RPI5 was a completely different architecture altogether.

Most flavors of HA I believe work on RPI5 except Supervised and HAOS… HAOS not supported (yet) on RPI5. The solution I am using offers the most flexibility for full blown HAOS on RPI5 while also allowing direct access to the underlying OS… So let me ask… Are you talking about…

HA (what kind? Supervised? HAOS?) on RPI (3? 4? 5?)

…since your comment simply stated “ha on rpi” ?

Have they recently added an official image for HAOS on the RPI5 architecture (as there was much discussion about that in the forums, everyone was told the folks maintaining those images had no plan to support the vastly different RPI5 architecture -“yet”)?

I assume yes, I selected this one:
image
but, how I can check now on the SD?

This is a new screenshot, not what actually use when i create the SD… so i could miss any step and do not realize.

Can I check the real version on the SD now somehow?

Anyway, I assume as soon I restore a back-up OS is also updated, correct? Does HA have a different OS for Raspberry Pi 4 and 5?

Thanks

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Only the data is restored from a backup. That’s why it is always best to restore on a fresh install.

Go to settings about to see the version installed

Great that this is now available, however it locks people out of using the RPI5 for anything else

isn’t it a feature of HAOS in general?

I thought the image is only for HAOS. if not then I meant HA packaged with HAOS.

I double cehck the Raspberry 5 Version and it has
OS version: 13.1
HA Core: 2024.9.3

Unless anyone told me the opposite, these version should be valid for Raspberry pi 5 correct?

For me, the most wired thing is that it loads, but after some time, it shows the error screen. I mean this error is not showed when loading… I assume this check should happen on OS load, correct?

Could be any integration or add on or dongle?
I tested Grafana, and my Zigbee and Zwave devices and it worked fine.

About the discussion of the device I am using. Thanks, I know there are a lot of options, bot for me this is the better balancing prize and functionality, in fact i am more than happy with my Raspberry Pi 4. the change was caused mainly to use the raspberry 4 I am using now for a different purpose… so using a different configuration is not an option for me right now.

thanks!

Thanks for this post with very detailed information, but not sure how this can help on my problem, can you please clarify exact points can help me?

Just make sure 100% you used the correct image. I am running a PI5 with no issues at all and have been for at least the last 6 months.

Use the right HAOS image because they do now exist as you were using thew wrong one, or if you also want to be able to do things outside of HAOS on your RPI5, RunRaspbian and put HAOS into a QEMU VM.

Why you know I am using the wrong image?

I paste an screenshot of the image I used and it is for Raspberry Pi 5… I followed the official guide: Raspberry Pi - Home Assistant

step 3 > 3

If this is no the proper one, can you clarify which one I should use?

About to use a VM, I feel is not the most efficient way, as some machine resources will be used for the OS…

Thanks

Hello

If home assistant works for a while and then later crashes i’d make sure that you are using the correct power supply for the Rpi5 (it requires more potential power than the Rpi4), also if it’s just on a SD card try another SD card (see the install instructions for recommended type as some will last longer than others). Obviously if you can update to using SSD you’ll get the speed and robustness benefits (and it’s really important that you have enough to power it)

As you’ve got the USB sticks too they all use the power.

If you haven’t got this integration you may wish to install it Raspberry Pi Power Supply Checker - Home Assistant (home-assistant.io) and see if it does raise it. My point on using the right USB power supply still applies even if it says ok on say a Rpi4 power supply.

Hope that helps!

I will check this…

Thanks!

Hi

looks, you find the problem…

I had RasPi 4 and 5 side to side and I feel I use the wrong power cable…

Working for more than 8 hours with no issues…

I will still vigilant for a couple of days just in case, but it looks power splay was cause…

Thanks @alander

Hopefully that’s it - the official Rpi5 power supply is bigger (27W) than the official Rpi4 power supply (15/12.5W), so if they are the same or the lower wattage do get a new power supply, it more shows up when the physically attached devices are used. I think it’s supposed to throttle the CPU but it’s possible it will ungratefully reset the device if it is overloaded and haven’t got the right power - and you definitely don’t want that happening when it’s writing to the storage such as SD card!

Hi

Now it was working for some days, so looks we found the cause…

The wired thing is the error shows, as it does not mention power on any place… and as you said, just in case should restart and load OS again…

Not sure if there is a place to communicate this on official Raspi Forums as looks something is not acting as expected or at least showing the best error message.

Anyway, thanks for your help!

Hopefully that was it - or it was a co-incidence and say it fixed itself with an update or disk check! Are you able to restart it ok too? (although do a backup and hoping it won’t make it worse!)