Improve Scene editor, allow scene edits without setting devices' states

Big thanks to @karwosts and @marcinbauer85_3 for taking on this request and delivering a fix in 2024.12.0! I’m sure this enhancement took a ton of effort on your end, and I want to ensure your work wasn’t completed thanklessly.

THANK YOU!!! :heart: :smiley: :heart:

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The latest release includes some significant improvements related to this:

Opening a Scene no longer auto-applies it, and you can now edit the scene YAML in the UI without applying it: (…) menu → “Edit in YAML”

There is still no support for editing the device/entity states in the visual editor without applying them, so this feature request isn’t fully implemented. However, this release is a big step in the right direction.

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Agreed: the scene editor still needs a UX overhaul. This was a big step in the right direction, and it should be just that – a first step.

Defaulting to “review” mode is a significant UX win in the meantime.

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If you watch the release party they actually give you a decent explanaition of what ‘Scenes’ are meant to be and why this is difficult to implement this feature.
2024.0.0 Release Party

IMO, scenes in 2024.12 is HALF BAKED, it does NOT allow you to EDIT a scene without actioning the devices, you can only edit the scene description etc, and IMO is not the USEFUL, although the YAML edit is a step foreword.

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For one, I too am annoyed by this. And applaud implementing a “dead” scene editor.

It’s June 2025 and we still can’t edit scenes without applying them, or juggling YAML - which is not difficult, just unnecessarily unpleasant.

Can’t wait to hear in the Release Party that Scenes got an makeover!!! :joy: