Install hass.io on Raspberry Pi4 on SSD

lalamite · August 27, 2019, 2:50pm

Hi guys,

as I’m worried about the SD-card crash issue, I just bought a P4 (2GB), a USB SATA controller (for Raspberry) and a SSD.

Unforuntately it’s not working out of the box.
I flashed on the SSD hass.io and plugged the sata controller via micro usb to the USB port of the raspberry.

After plugging in the power adapter nothing happens.
I don’t own a micro HDMI cable so I can’t see what’s the problem.

Do I need to configure anything to boot up directly from the SSD?

makai · August 27, 2019, 6:32pm

USB boot is not currently available for the raspberry pi 4 (see Raspberry website).

Regarding hass.io, if you tried HassOS, note that USB boot is not currently available (may be in beta in a few days or weeks)

Sorry but you have to wait

https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/hardware/raspberrypi/booteeprom.md

lalamite · August 28, 2019, 9:48am

Damn, then I should have bought a 3+ ?

Ok then I will run my old Pi 3 until they will enable USB boot for the PI 4

Thanks for the info/reply @makai

Robertoamsterdam · January 3, 2020, 2:25pm

Here you can see if the USB-boot is available. At the time of me writing this message it isn’t.

https://github.com/raspberrypi/rpi-eeprom/blob/45aa4ed42cf558725aa83fbe9624017e60a0caa0/firmware/release-notes.md

Brian_Mollegaard_Ped · May 21, 2020, 10:27am

Hi
I saw that a beta version of the pi4 ssd boot thing is available. I was trying to follow this guide https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVhYvvrGhMU as I understand hassio is very limited in what functionality that is available, so I guess that this method doesn’t work.

Codec303 · May 21, 2020, 11:27am

Nice find, I think I may wait until it’s out of beta before going for this on my Raspbian based setup

fredsbus · June 1, 2020, 6:25pm

I found a link to a fairly simple proceedure to set it up to first boot from the SD card and then switch to the SSD drive.

https://www.element14.com/community/community/raspberry-pi/blog/2019/08/30/quick-sd-to-ssd-on-the-pi-4

Brian_Mollegaard_Ped · June 2, 2020, 8:48pm

Hi Fred
What image did you flash/move to the SSD?
Andreas Spiess has several videos on youtube about different methods of moving installations from a SD to a SSD, but the standard image I used to flash does not use buster, so I can’t make them work.
Also I have a very limited knowledge about linux so I like to find a installation method which is stable and very close to the SD install for stability.

fredsbus · June 2, 2020, 10:40pm

I used the latest pi image and followed the instructions on here to get HASSIO installed on it.

Point me to image you use and I will see if I can figure it out…

Brian_Mollegaard_Ped · June 3, 2020, 9:33pm

Sound good!
I like to install the standard one from https://www.home-assistant.io/hassio/installation/ for the Pi4.
it doesn’t matter if its 32 or 64 bit.

fredsbus · June 7, 2020, 4:44pm

The Hassio version of the raspberry pi is running on top of a custom version of linux. It doesn’t appear that there is any support for USB boot for the Pi4 at this time.

The link that I followed:

https://www.home-assistant.io/blog/2019/12/17/hassos-release-3/

Even though I do have pi3 to test on, not sure I would follow this as it permanently alters the bios configuration.

At this point I am sticking with the install procedure at: https://community.home-assistant.io/t/install-hassio-on-raspberry-pi-4-raspbian-buster-with-windows-pc/164394

You kind of have to read between the lines for the preparatory commands to execute; but use the final part defined by “SKAL” for the rpi4.

marcomsousa · June 14, 2020, 12:10pm

2020-05-15 Add pieeprom-2020-05-15 beta with USB boot

2020-06-03 Bootmode tweaks and fix issue with > 4TB drives - BETA

2020-06-12 Improve handling of multiple bootable USB devices

github.com

raspberrypi/rpi-eeprom/blob/master/firmware/release-notes.md

# Raspberry Pi4 bootloader EEPROM release notes

## 2020-06-12 Improve support for powered USB SATA devices - BETA
   * Reset Ethernet MAC + PHY if final boot mode is not network boot
     See: Kernel warning and network failure when attempting to use the network after bootloader times out. #144
   * Improve handling of multiple bootable USB devices and remove USB_MSD_BOOT_MAX_RETRIES
   * Resolve: No DHCPACK with DHCP relay agent #58
   * Toggle USB root hub port power for 200ms on the first USB MSD boot attempt
     See: Bootloader can't boot via USB-HDD after system reboot #151
   * Update bootloader handover to support uart_2ndstage - requires
     a newer start.elf firmware which will be via rpi-update.
   * Assert PCIe fundamental reset if the final bootmode was not USB-MSD because
     the OS might not do this before starting XHCI.

## 2020-06-03 Bootmode tweaks and fix issue with > 4TB drives - BETA
   * Resolve: Unable to boot from USB MSD - Seagate 5Tb HDD backup drive #139
   * Increase USB MSD timeout from 10 to 20 seconds.
   * Max retries now default to zero because the default BOOT_ORDER includes
     restart (0xf). Therefore, each boot-mode is now tried once before moving
     to the next mode. The retries mechanism is largely redudant now that

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Mutt · June 14, 2020, 1:12pm

Thanks for this,
So what’s the current status ?
Will it boot a hass.io image from the ssd without an SD ?
Or does it only boot pi OS ? (new name for raspbian)
Are there instructions someplace ?
Where are the images / files ?

VR29 · June 17, 2020, 1:58pm

It looks like it has been moved in to stable status today, so shouldn’t take long.

mikron · July 12, 2020, 9:28pm

What is status now?

Brian_Mollegaard_Ped · July 13, 2020, 1:01pm

I think you can do it now, I did try. I think the process is:

updating erom(or something like this)
flash Hassio supervised to SSD
connect and boot.

I waiting for a ssd, to arrive from China, before I test.

Blueman2 · July 15, 2020, 2:42am

No, SSD boot of Hassio is not working yet. I do wish that this was supported though.

PALJ · September 4, 2020, 11:07am

It is en BETA (https://github.com/home-assistant/operating-system/releases/tag/5.1) .
Have it running from a USB stick without any problems.

Brian_Mollegaard_Ped · September 4, 2020, 11:12am

Can I flash this version directly to a SSD?

PALJ · September 4, 2020, 11:28am

Yes.
First I updated the RPI4 eeprom to support USB boot. Then I flashed the beta version to my USB. I used a different USB to setup the wifi.
Currently Im running on a USB 2 8gb memory stick witch works great.

Edit: There are some talks that only the 64bit version is currently working. I have not tried the 32bit so cannot say if this is correct