Insteon configuration panel

Yes, this is a known issue. Been on my plate to fix for a while. Hopefully in 2022.6.

Ugh, not an easy answer. Technically, you can mark the records in the modem as in_use=false then deactivate the device in HA. This will effectively make the device no longer in service. But I need to create a better solution because there are still remnants of the device after you do both of those things.

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Has anyone know if there is a different pairing process for the outdoor module or leak sensor? I can’t seem to add these devices. I never got around to setting them up with the hub/app, and would now like to use them with the increased functionality of HA.

When I setup my outdoor plug it was just pressing and holding the set button to link it.

Same for me. The micro module has toggle modes, switching modes and multiple settings for the beeper and led. Just went through setting properties with the set button. What a pain. Forgot how many cycles of holding the button I had done and had to wait for it to clear and start all over. And I can never hear the beeps. Would really love to be able to set the modes in the Insteon integration.

Has the issue with needing to refresh the page after leaving and returning to the Insteon tab been fixed yet? I only see it in a Safari browser. Not Firefox or the mac app. Makes me wonder if there is some setting I can adjust in Safari to stop this?

Easy to work around though.

I also see that the friendly names are not shown in the Insteon tab if “show as” is set. It looks like the devices are showing as whatever name was being used before “show as” was set.

hmm that’s what I’m doing, it just beeps once and the light starts flashing green. I don’t get the normal double beep that you would expect when linking devices. I also have 1 lamp dimmer that does the same thing.

Got it to work, after having a few devices not link I started thinking the hub might not getting put into linking mode. The hub should beep and light should flash green. I unplugged it and after a few minutes it automatically went into linking mode, maybe HA was still trying? @teharris1 is there any known issues with the hub not entering linking mode?

Not that I am aware of.

Just to show what I am thinking (needs work still). But here is something I think everyone can use.
Reads ALDB from insteon_devices.json. Populates some things. Now I can at the very least see what devices are in what scenes when I use the rest of the screen to add/modify scenes.

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I still need deeper parsing to exclude multi-button Keypadlinc devices that are not really in the scene as I only maped to the XX.XX.XX values for now.

What would be a awesome to have would be …

  1. when the insteon Hub/PLM is first added, all the scenes are imported to HA. Now, I understand that the scene names are not in the ALDB so the user would have to name them at that time (but could change them later … or they are named like “Insteon Group 99” but the devices are put into named groups in HA so that they could be changed.

  2. as new scenes are created, this is maintained

  3. as new devices are added to scenes

But I do see the issue here where someone adds some device through editing the group and that doesn;t really reflect “an Insteon group”. Maybe they are not “HA groups” but maintained only in the Insteon model. I do not know.

All I do know is that the internet is full (as well as this forum) from comments about trying to understand where scenes went, how to find them and how to control them.

Is there no one else using the new “show switch as…” feature in HA???

I have 5 devices and 4 are switches which control lights so I used the “show switch as light” which creates a new light domain entity and hides the switch domain entity. When I do that, two of the switch entities appear in the Insteon panel but two do not…

I’m seeing something similar. None of mine disappeared but they lost the friendly names or had the wrong ones.

“Show As” is really new in HA and looks like there are still some issues to work out.

yes I use 2 “show switch as light” and the original device no longer appears, one is a SwitchLinc Relay (Dual-Band) and the other is an On/Off Module

The switch entities are there in HA and if you tick show hidden they appear on that HA page but not the new Insteon panel

After playing with show switch as light, deleting the helpers and recreating them with inconsistent behaviour i.e. all would show in the panel except for front porch light, I restarted HA after installing some other updates and now it is consistently NOT showing the hidden switch entities so it is useless as is to me. It needs to be able to show the hidden switch entities…

What if you just leave them as default?

Or perhaps “it” refers to the show as function and not the Insteon integration? If that’s the case I agree, show as still has a limited appeal.

Then I would need to return to my old method of manually creating a light entity for each switch if I want to use light for those switches that control lights.

Why not just have the Insteon panel display hidden switch entities???

Show as... is here to stay and integrations should keep up with the times…