Insteon Keypad buttons linked to Dimmer, not updating status

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New to HA, was using Homeseer then Homebridge. Loving HA so far!

My issues with Insteon for the longest time since moving away from Homeseer.

I have multiple Keypads and each button controls another dimmer / switch.

I set up HA to control all the main load dimmer/switches.

All the “buttons” from the keypads are hidden in HA.

The buttons and the dimmers are manually linked. When HA turns on/off a dimmer/switch, the buttons will not update.

and vice versa, if a dimmer/switch is turned on manually via a button, the status does not update in HA.

What is the proper way to handle this situation?

Thanks in advance

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I have the same issue! You can see the buttons on the keypad if you go to config > insteon > devices.

and if i toggle them in insteon, they turn on/off on the keypad. But not vice versa.

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I just deleted the keypad and re-added it. Neither my 6 nor my 8 work. Only the “main” light on each but none of the keys.

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I had to manually create the responder links in the ALDB. Tedious. But works. Use the insteon integration ALDB panel. On the PLM side create 7 responder entries, groups 2-8, pointing at the address of the device (e.g. 4D.32.8C), with data 0 0 0. On the device side, create 7 controller entities, groups 2-8, pointing at the address of the PLM (e.g., 49.F8.0E) with data 3 21 158

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If you use the “Create Default Links” button in the All-Link Database tab of the device, this will create the correct responder / controller links to ensure all buttons are seen correctly.

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I somewhat solved some of the issues, here’s what i did

  • add default links to all devices
  • add insteon scene to link the keypad buttons to the dimmer/switch
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Actually I still didn’t solve the problem.

some keypad buttons won’t register at all, some will only register “ON” but not “OFF”…

All the keypad buttons and corresponding dimmers are linked to each other in ALDB, and scenes are created for each

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same issue, did you ever figure it out?

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I’m struggling with how to manage true Insteon scenes using HA and the control panel via Insteon integration. I’m using a (new) Insteon PLM, keypad, dimmer, 2 lamp modules for testing. Well not so much testing as trying to make my Insteon set up work when my ISY stopped working.

I tried creating an Insteon scene in the control panel. As an example, keypad button B to control a lamp module. That works to trigger the scene from HA but doesn’t create links in the keypad as far as I can see. So manual control from the keypad doesn’t work.

I also tried going into the keypad in the settings-devices section and adding a scene. This also didn’t seem to create any links.

I tried adding default links which didn’t seem to do anything.

Is there a way to truly manage insteon scenes, that creates insteon links in all the device databases so they work without HA (and can also update and be controlled by HA)?

Thinking bigger - the next step would be to recreate an “all inside lights” scene to turn off about 30 devices. Using the ISY it would create all the links. I can’t imaging having to manually program that at the devices, or building manual links in the Insteon control panel or integration.

Apologies if I’m missing something, I did search both reddit & the forums here and read the docs, and played with it but could not get it working.

@teharris1

Thanks!

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Replying to myself, I did manage to create a couple insteon scenes in the control panel which seem to work although I don’t see any option to update controller/responder and when clicking the device in a scene, it pops up a window to adjust ramp rate and on level. But that doesn’t work. Clicking OK pops the screen back to the scenes list and doesn’t update the scene. It also doesn’t show what that level is. I don’t know if there’s a way to dive into the PLM alldb to adjust the levels.

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I too, coming from ISY-land, am trying to work out Insteon scenes. The below reference has actually been insightful, and it’s info has been working for me to use HA/Insteon integration / Configuration panels to ‘manually’ configure scenes:

Source: Insteon Configuration Panel

But just today I went to define a new scene and noticed an updated Insteon Integration UI to add/edit Insteon scenes. It’s nice. And it seems to create ALDB records in the non-PLM devices as expected. BUT when I then inspect the ALDB records it creates in the PLM I am now confused as those seem to have spurious data for each of the three data fields that don’t match the explaination given in the reference I linked to above.

But - the created scene does work fine from within HA. Now I need to figure out how to add one of my Keypad buttons to that scene as a controller so that the Keypad will control that scene without requiring HA to be in the middle of it.