Insteon Leak sensors heartbeats

Hardware
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Hi all,

I have a bunch of Insteaon Leak sensors integrated with HomeAssistant using the Hub v2 and they all detect leaks properly:

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I wanted to know if and when they loose heartbeats so I can replace their batteries. I created a group with all heartbeats and created an alarm. To test, I removed the battery in one of the leak sensor. It’s been 48 hours and I never received the alarm (the heartbeat never went to “problem” - stays at "OK). I thought the sensors were being polled once a day for heartbeats. If that’s the case, why does the sensor still shows as having a heartbeat with its battery removed?

Do you have a similar experience? Any troubleshooting I can try?

Thanks!

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@teharris1, anyone else that can test this? It is still the same after an additional 24hrs.

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I have a couple of these. Didn’t think to try that automation. I’ll grab one of them and see what happens today.

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Ok, this is weird. Neither of my leak sensors are showing up in HA, but another one (that doesn’t match anything I own) is in there.

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Great, thanks. Please let us know. In case anyone is interested, here is the alert I created for this:

alert:
  leak_sensor_hearbeats:
    name: Hearbeats for leak sensors
    message: 'Some leak sensors are reporting a hearbeat failure.  Please check their batteries: {%-
      for entity_id in states.group.leak_sensors.attributes.entity_id if states(entity_id)
      == ''on'' -%} {% set parts = entity_id.split(''.'') -%} {%- if loop.first
      %} {% elif loop.last %} and the {% else %}, the {% endif -%}
      {{ states[parts[0]][parts[1]].name }} {%- endfor %}'
    can_acknowledge: true
    done_message: "Leak Sensor Heartbeats are now reporting OK"
    entity_id: group.leak_sensors
    state: 'on'
    skip_first: False
    repeat:
      - 120
      - 360
      - 1440
    notifiers:
      - mobile_app_iphone
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So I don’t know what the ‘phantom’ sensor is, but it’s showing as active and doesn’t correspond as far as I can tell with anything I have set up, and my two actual leak sensors aren’t in there. Btw, do the leak sensors show as dead in the mobile app?

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My 8 leak sensors both work in the app and in HA. I tested them all with water. It’s their heatrbeat sensors that don’t seem to work.

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Right, I mean does the heart beat sensor get triggered in the mobile app. I’m still trying to get my sensors to show up at all in HA…

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Anyone can test with their own install?

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I have the same problem. I’m unable to get any indication that the heartbeat has not been detected. The way I tested it was to remove the battery from one of my sensors and allow over 25+ hrs to pass. The heartbeat indicator still shows “OK” when I know that’s not possible. Also setup the alert and do not get any notification. It would be nice if I could 1) test without taking a couple of days … i.e reduce the heartbeat timeout to 5 minutes so that I can at least see that the automation/trigger is working (since it wouldn’t get another heartbeat in 5 minutes). 2) simulate the arrive of an Insteon heartbeat so that I could test the indicator updating from a failed state to a good “OK” state.

BTW:

  • I’m using Insteon Leak Detector Model 2852-222 Rev 3.0
  • Home Assistant Core 2022.5.4 Home Assistant Supervisor 2022.05.1
  • Home Assistant OS 7.6 Kernel version 5.10.108 Agent version 1.2.1
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Exactly. Thanks for testing. Now that they’re out of business, I doubt people will have interest to improve this functionality.

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I’m sure … I will look to try to debug since I still have a number of them. They still work.