Insteon Toggle Switch does not show correct status in HA

This seems to be a new problem or reemergence of an old one. I had several automations that would activate an automatic shut off my insteon control lights after they were manually activated. Now I note that HA doesn’t even show the correct status off these devices when it is manually changed. Use Stats under developer also shows the wrongs state I found a post from last year on pretty much the same issue. There is no report of the action in my log bool. If match the state using eye Lovelace interface I can regain control of the light

Insteon Entity (switches) status not shown on HA Dashboard correctly; HA 2022.5.5 on RP - #4 by rasbrad

I am running HA on a Linux virtual machine running on Mac OS
HA OS 11.1
Core. 2023.11.0

This has been an ongoing problem in my set for the past year. The states of the Insteon devices in my dashboard eventually go out of sync with the real physical state.

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Nice to know I am not alone. I am heavily invested in Insteon and was pleased when I heard the company has some back from the ashes

How are you the devices to HA? Through a hub? Or through a USB PLM straight into your HA computer? I was using a hub and had issues with the states not reporting properly. Then I removed the hub and went USB PLM straight to HA. Still have issues with states but fewer. Am now thinking of getting an ISY and using that integration instead of the native HA support.

I am using a USB PLM I am not familiar with the ISY, I Imagine the native HA support has some bugs since it went away and came back

just thought I mention that still a problem for me. so close but so far away

still struggling. light switch shows status set from HA but does not reflect manual actions (on/off). I use of ISY a way of improving insteon perfomance?

I use the ISY integration and I have not noticed any status issues. I will admit that my ISY/HA interactions are quite minimal. I have ISY handle the vast majority of my automation work load and HA just displays some informational type stuff. But it’s always correct as far as I have noticed.

my fat fingers I ISY a way to improve to recover insteon functionality? I haven’t used ISY in fact I don’t really know how it works. Does it depend on the existing PLM?

I would just let you know that moving to ISY is far far far from trivial. You would basically have to start over. Remove everything Insteon from HA and rebuild your Insteon system on ISY.

Yes, ISY needs a PLM. The current version of ISY is called “eisy” and it uses a USB PLM, so if that is what you have, you could reuse it. BUT, you would want to factory reset it to use with ISY. As I said, the move would not be trivial.

After my previous reply, I was thinking about your issue a bit more. I suspect your problem is one of communication and not a HA issue. The Insteon switch will (attempt) to communicate back to the PLM when the switch is manually pressed. If the communication fails (and it can), then the PLM won’t know about the switch press.

thanks for the input. it helps a lot. guess time to invest in conversion to z-wave until they change that standard again