Is there a trick to including goup.all_whatever in a view group?

I want to set up a view group that has all my automations, switches, and lights for debug or to turn off individual automations (I’ve done my own group.default_view to de-clutter it). In this group (group.miscelaneous) I’ve got group.all_automations and the other “all” groups, as well as a couple of input sliders.

##### Catchall group - misc automations and all switches and lights
  miscelaneous:
    icon: mdi:settings
    view: yes
    entities:
      - input_select.sound_system_presets
      - input_select.pool_light_mode      
      - group.all_automations
      - group.all_scripts
      - group.all_switches
      - group.all_lights
      - group.all_fans

I get the view, and the sliders, but the “all” groups don’t appear.

Is there something I’m missing to be able to get those to appear in my view of the group?

From the docs …https://home-assistant.io/components/group/

Default groups are hidden by default, so you must customize them to be visible in your custom groups and views.

# Example configuration.yaml to include default groups in custom view
customize:
  group.all_automations:
    hidden: false
  group.all_scripts:
    hidden: false

That’ll do it. Since all of those entities showed up in the default view before I customized it, I had assumed I was seeing the groups.

Thanks!