I’m about to do a renovation and am thinking about how to create my smarthome. I want to go for a local setup so that everything will work if I lose internet access for whatever reason. To that effect, I’m looking for a local push smart thermostat. Anyone have/know of one? Care to share your experience?
Also, any other suggestions for good local push devices I might want to consider for my apartment that aren’t thermostats are very welcome!
Trane Zwave thermostats
Work great, simple and look good
I’m not really sure what a “push” device is, but I can offer one option: Just buy any “smart” thermostat. I think they all will let you set and run schedules in the device. External connections (whether to HA or the vendor’s servers) are just added functionality.
Anyway, that’s what I do with my three Honeywell smart thermostats. I control them almost exclusively through HA, but if either my internet connection or HA go down, my pipes won’t freeze and I can (gasp!) adjust them manually. I never really liked the idea of HA needing to use Honeywell’s cloud API, but in practice it’s been helpful to have an alternate way to access them, assuming the internet isn’t down.
I’m referring to the classifier for how the device talks to HA when I say Local Push.
Yes, no one will die if the internet goes out and HA can’t control my thermostat. It’s unlikely that the pipes will freeze. I still want all of my automations to work the way I set them up though, whether there’s internet or not. Ideally, there will be very limited internet interaction, if any at all. I am security conscious so I plan on limiting internet interaction as much as possible with these devices. Also, if the company that I end up going with either goes under or decides to pull support for their internet servers/APIs (looking at you, Google), I don’t want to be left with a device that I can no longer use for it’s intended purpose.
Always go local if you can 
Agreed. I had my thermostats before I had HA, or I might have been more aggressive in trying to find a local-only solution. My point was that it’s not as bad as I thought. No internet = no remote monitoring or control anyway. Honeywell has been around for a while, hopefully they stay a while longer. If not, I only have less than $100 into each thermostat. My biggest fear is they start charging for, or enforcing some new restrictions on, the use of their API.
I’d like to do a “roll your own” thermostat solution but these new smart thermostats actually figure out things like the optimal balance between indoor temperature and HVAC system cycle times. Someone’s already done all the hard work of coding and integrating the hardware. Kinda hard to beat for the price.
What did you go with? I’m looking to replace 5 Nest thermostats that came with the house I bought.