Looking for an alarm system

I am looking for a fully-featured alarm with all of the alarm logic is embedded in the physical device.

HA supports 18 different alarms, but most are only sold in USA. Other are not sold to consumers and a product like Verisure only comes with 50$ monthly worthless monitorion charge.

I looking for a fully featured alarm, without a montly cost, sold in Europe and supported by HA. Any recommendation will be appreciated

Are you willing to DIY?
Do you require monitoring by outside company?

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Purchase standard motion sensor. Wired or Wireless are OK. DC or Battery.
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Setup these sensor in HA and utilize manual alarm component to arm disarm

When Arm you can use HTML5 push notification or other notification to notify you(with image if you have camera)
You may create automation to ON/OFF all lights, specific lights or a dedicated light. Hue allows customize color of this.

Mount Kindle Fire ($25US) for control panel or you can make control panel using GPIO to Raspberry pi, ESP8266 or similar
You can use HA Floor plan to give very nice look

This can be done in a manner that looks very professtional.
DIY does not mean rats nest wires or soldering to create custom. All this may be done using plugin and screw terminal in clean enclosures

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I know this is not what you asking for, but this is what I have planned so far and is similar to the post above.

  • Home assistant - Manual Alarm Control Panel + the alarm logic
  • Xiaomi Smart Gateway (200 dkk), PIR/Switches/Door sensors (approx. 8 euro pr device) - Link to a kit at Aliexpress
  • IKEA Trådfri - lights
  • Push Notification with image from camera (not found a suitable camera yet)

I do this because I am also using the PIR’s and switches to turn on/off the IKEA lights when the alarm is not armed.

Thanks for you suggestions. The reason, why my looking for integrating a full function Alarm system is, I see HA as a hobby. My perspective for an alarm system is 10 years and since I’ve only been playing with HA for a couple of week, I not sure that I will be willing to invest the time to maintain the system for the period.

Please be advised that Xiaomi does (or did?) shadow activations on window and motion sensors, I’m not sure if those are fixed as I’m not using these actively. If someone knows if they fixed this already in the firmware, please chime in!

I guess you mean false activations by shadows activation (i’m not a natural English speaking). That is an absolut no go for me, since I plan to have an 120 db sirene on the outside of my house. Still want happy neighbors.

I’m looking for something similar, since we’re buidling a house, we got some more options. This is currently the road I’m taking:
Door + window sensors, using in-frame reed-contacts, wired back to a central point, connected to an Arduino.
Manual alarm panel in HA used
Custom Arduino + Nextion display based alarm panel next to entrance doors
For the rest, I’m planning on adding presence/motion detection, but still figuring stuff out for that, motion is easy, but presence not so much. The reason for the presence, is I want to use the same sensors to control the lights, etc when the alarm is off (eg, someone is home)
As I said, we’re building, so we got some more options, we can hard wire everything from scratch.
However, regarding the sirene, I’m planning to add it as well, but only later on, after I’ve test ran the system for quite a while, sending in-home alarm or phone/web notifications only, it might not be a bad idea to do that yourself, so you can confirm whether you can false positives, or that other sensors are calibrated correctly. Don’t want your alarm going off for no reason, like you mentioned, neighbours aint gonna be happy that way :wink:

I have them and only time I have seen any false alerts are from 1 I have outside as a test. Even my aeotec 6 used to do the same

I have a Paradox wired alarm system connected to an IP150S in Europe. It works pretty well except that I can’t trigger the alarm through homeassistant, but it does that itself… Everything else shows up as sensors and alarm panels… Have to get the right version of IP150S but then it works…

What I like about this solution is that it has most of the advantages of a homeassistant based alarm (remote arming/disarming, motion and door sensors shown in homeassistant), but if I decide to throw homeassistant in the trash one day or it’s simply not working properly, the alarm still works.

Anyway, whenever this topic comes up, people immediately come up with solutions that require a perfectly functioning homeassistant installation to work… This is an alternative which doesn’t… I’m sure there are some others like this out there.

Did you end up getting your alarm panel working? I’m planning on doing the same thing using a Nextion TFT. I’ve got a couple of Arduino boards laying around, but might grab a NodeMCU or D1 Mini to (hopefully) make things easier on the WiFi end. Just curious how (if) you made out with yours and if you’d be able to give me some pointers.

In the end we’ve decided to go with a full alarm system by a known alarm panel manufacturer (Satel).
I do still plan to integrate it into HA (1 of the reasons why I choose this brand), but during the house build, I’ve had so many points where I thought, if I’m going to DIY this, the resale value will go down and it’ll be a pain to maintain of it breaks, which is less a problem with existing hardware

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@tmatheussen, definitely the right way to go… The alarm system should be independent of the house automation software and it should work standalone if everything else is not working. Event tough the DIY would be cheaper, it will definitely be a pain in the hand in the long run. IMHO, the standalone alarm system chosen should also be free of cloud or monthly payment installments.

I happened to have a preinstalled Crow Runner Alarm System (They still sell these very cheap since it is an old technology) which uses wired sensors, or you can use Freewave wireless sensors. Normally whenever an alarm triggers it can call the phone numbers you pre configured and tells you the triggered zone name with the voice of the alarm installer guy :smiley: . It happened to also have an IP Control card which normally uses their own mobile app; however the good guys also come with a custom firmware for automation software. I also wrote an HA custom component for this in which i can see all sensors online, arm and disarm and use services for automations.

So, i have a full functioning standalone and HA connected alarm system which is cheaper than most of the alarm systems out there. Even tough the technology seems old, it happens to have all up to date alarm system functionalities with the help of IP Module Card and HA.

Whenever i get out of the house and arm the system, the automations powers of all lights, TV and closes all shutters. Whenever i get home, the automations read my presence and disarms the alarm system, opens up the shutters, powers on the lights etc. all automatically.

On top of all, whenever i sell my house, the alarm system will be still operational whether it has an automation server or not…

Can I ask for some guidance on this?
I can figure as far as I can use GND shared across multiple devices. Among the rest of GPIOs there’s 5V 3V and a bunch of others I wouldn’t normally think of connecting reed sensors to.

I’m looking to hook up like 27 reed sensors to that poor little Pi :slight_smile:

Thanks,
mb

Hi,
I have a Crow Runner 16 old alarm panel and i want to try and get it to work with HA.
Whats the best way to do this.
regards,
AC