Lovelace Conditional Card - Inconsistent with States?

Configuration
1

I’d like to use the type: conditional in the picture-elements card to display (or not) an element based on whether a persistent_notification exists.

However, despite being able to test for unknown in the States page,

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it doesn’t work in the conditional card, and this,

              - type: conditional
                conditions:
                  - entity: persistent_notification.weather_warning
                    state_not: 'unknown'
                elements:
                  - type: image
                    image: /local/panel/weather_warning.png

will display the image even if the notification does not exist.

Is there a way to make this work as intended?

2

Try

state_not: 'None'

or maybe

state_not: none
3

Thanks but neither of those worked.

(And for what it’s worth nor did 'none' or None)

4

I just put the following into my config and it seemed to be working correctly for me:

  - type: conditional
    conditions:
      - entity: persistent_notification.weather_warning
        state: 'unknown'
    card:
      type: entities
      entities:
        - device_tracker.life360_me

I can change the condition back and forth from “state:” to “state_not:” and the card changes from not displayed to being displayed. And I don’t have an existing “persistent_notification.weather_warning” entity right now either.

I’m not using a picture elements card but the basic functionality should work either way.

5

hhmmm, strange. I ended up creating a sensor to get around this but I’ll take another look…

EDIT: Nope… it doesn’t work for me. Maybe something to do with it being a picture-entity card?

This always shows the image, weather_warning.png.

      - type: horizontal-stack
        cards:
          - type: picture-elements
            image: /local/panel/main_section.svg
            elements:
              #=== Weather Warning Icon
              - type: conditional
                conditions:
                  - entity: persistent_notification.weather_warning
                    state_not: 'unknown'
                elements:
                  - type: image
                    image: /local/panel/weather_warning.png
                    tap_action:
                      action: call-service
                      service: browser_mod.command
                      service_data:
                        command: popup
                        auto_close: true
                        card:
                          type:  markdown
                          title: ' '
                          content: >
                            {% if states('persistent_notification.weather_warning') != 'unknown' %}
                              {% set colour = state_attr('persistent_notification.weather_warning', 'message' ).split('##')[1] | trim %}
                              {% set message = state_attr('persistent_notification.weather_warning', 'message' ).split('</font>')[1] | trim %}
                              ## <font color={{ colour }}> {{ colour }}</font> Weather Warning ##
                              {{ message }}
                            {% endif %}
6

Agin, i’m not sure why your config isn’t working.

I put you exact code from above into my lovelace (I only changed the image file names/location) and it still works fine for me. If I change the state from state_not to state then the image disappears.

But one thing that does seem strange is I would have expected state_not to not display the image since I don’t have an existing “persistent_notification.weather_warning”. That seems backwards to me.

Have you tried switching the state_not to state and seeing if the image stops being displayed?

7

Well, well, well.
Yes that works. Although technically it doesn’t because as you say it is completely round the wrong way…

I’ll need to wait for (or create) a persitant notification to check it works (wrongly :wink: ) when one exists but
thanks for spotting that!