Lovelace - Glance toggle for scenes

sfnetwork · October 14, 2018, 3:16pm

His, I’m trying to setup my scenes in a glance view and would like to “activate” when I click on it. (instead of second window giving me the option)

Tried the “tap_action: toggle” but it doesn’t help much (I guess activate isn’t considered a toggle)

Any suggestion or idea to have this working as toggles?

my section in config:

  - title: lumieres
    icon: mdi:lightbulb
    cards:
      - type: glance
        title: Ambiances
        show_state: false
        tap_action: toggle
        show_header_toggle: true
        column_width: 33%
        entities:          
          - scene.haut_lumineux
          - scene.haut_100          
          - scene.haut_relaxe_colorcycle
          - scene.haut_relaxe           
          - scene.haut_dodo
          - scene.haut_dodo_colorcycle  
          - scene.haut_off          
          - scene.soussol_relaxe
          - scene.soussol_off          
          - scene.bureau_full_lights
          - scene.bureau_relaxe         
          - scene.bureau_off 
          - scene.ext_on
          - scene.ext_off

I think this might be related to the “service” parameter but not idea how to apply this to my setup and need here…

sfnetwork · October 15, 2018, 12:37pm

Any idea, if it’s not possible, I’ll stop trying…
Pretty sure I need to set it up using the “call service” option and call “scene turn on” but I’m unsure how to format this in my ui-lovelace.yaml…
Thanks in advance!

petro · October 15, 2018, 12:49pm

You need to adjust your entities to have the appropriate attributes. See the entity documentation for glance cards:

  - title: lumieres
    icon: mdi:lightbulb
    cards:
      - type: glance
        title: Ambiances
        show_state: false
        column_width: 33%
        entities:          
          - entity: scene.haut_lumineux
            tap_action: call-service
            service: scene.haut_lumineux
          - scene.haut_100
            tap_action: call-service
            service: scene.haut_100
          - scene.haut_relaxe_colorcycle
            tap_action: call-service
            service: scene.haut_relaxe_colorcycle
          - scene.haut_relaxe
            tap_action: call-service
            service: scene.haut_relaxe
          - scene.haut_dodo
            tap_action: call-service
            service: scene.haut_dodo
          - scene.haut_dodo_colorcycle
            tap_action: call-service
            service: scene.haut_dodo_colorcycle
          - scene.haut_off
            tap_action: call-service
            service: scene.haut_off
          - scene.soussol_relaxe
            tap_action: call-service
            service: scene.soussol_relaxe
          - scene.soussol_off
            tap_action: call-service
            service: scene.soussol_off
          - scene.bureau_full_lights
            tap_action: call-service
            service: scene.bureau_full_lights
          - scene.bureau_relaxe
            tap_action: call-service
            service: scene.bureau_relaxe
          - scene.bureau_off
            tap_action: call-service
            service: scene.bureau_off
          - scene.ext_on
            tap_action: call-service
            service: scene.ext_on
          - scene.ext_off
            tap_action: call-service
            service: scene.ext_off

sfnetwork · October 15, 2018, 1:08pm

Thanks, I tried but I keep getting

Mon Oct 15 2018 09:07:03 GMT-0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)

Unable to find service scene/bureau_relaxe

Tries the same in service to test; working form there…

petro · October 15, 2018, 1:49pm

change all the services to scene.turn_on and add entity: before each entity_id:

  - title: lumieres
    icon: mdi:lightbulb
    cards:
      - type: glance
        title: Ambiances
        show_state: false
        column_width: 33%
        entities:          
          - entity: scene.haut_lumineux
            tap_action: call-service
            service: scene.turn_on
          - entity: scene.haut_100
            tap_action: call-service
            service: scene.turn_on
          - entity: scene.haut_relaxe_colorcycle
            tap_action: call-service
            service: scene.turn_on
          - entity: scene.haut_relaxe
            tap_action: call-service
            service: scene.turn_on
          - entity: scene.haut_dodo
            tap_action: call-service
            service: scene.turn_on
          - entity: scene.haut_dodo_colorcycle
            tap_action: call-service
            service: scene.turn_on
          - entity: scene.haut_off
            tap_action: call-service
            service: scene.turn_on
          - entity: scene.soussol_relaxe
            tap_action: call-service
            service: scene.turn_on
          - entity: scene.soussol_off
            tap_action: call-service
            service: scene.turn_on
          - entity: scene.bureau_full_lights
            tap_action: call-service
            service: scene.turn_on
          - entity: scene.bureau_relaxe
            tap_action: call-service
            service: scene.turn_on
          - entity: scene.bureau_off
            tap_action: call-service
            service: scene.turn_on
          - entity: scene.ext_on
            tap_action: call-service
            service: scene.turn_on
          - entity: scene.ext_off
            tap_action: call-service
            service: scene.turn_on

sfnetwork · October 15, 2018, 2:03pm

YES! thank you so much! It works now.
I actually tried it before but wrote scene.turn.on instead of scene.turn_on

Bob_NL · December 30, 2018, 9:29pm

Somehow this doe not work for me:

  - title: Lights
    icon: mdi:lightbulb
    cards:        
      - type: glance
        title: Scenes
        show_state: false
        column_width: 33%        
        entities:           
         - entity: scene.away
           tap_action: call-service
           service: scene.turn_on
         - entity: scene.morning
           tap_action: call-service
           service: scene.turn_on
         - entity: scene.sunrise
           tap_action: call-service
           service: scene.turn_on         
         - entity: scene.pre_evening
           tap_action: call-service
           service: scene.turn_on         
         - entity: scene.evening
           tap_action: call-service
           service: scene.turn_on         
         - entity: scene.late_night
           tap_action: call-service
           service: scene.turn_on         
         - entity: scene.late_night_chill
           tap_action: call-service
           service: scene.turn_on
         - entity: scene.netflix
           tap_action: call-service
           service: scene.turn_on         
         - entity: scene.sleep
           tap_action: call-service
           service: scene.turn_on         
         - entity: scene.sportiv    
           tap_action: call-service
           service: scene.turn_on

Nothing happens when pressing the icons. Also there are no errors in my logfile.

Bob_NL · December 30, 2018, 9:49pm

Hmm weird, seems like tap_action: toggle is not working AT ALL for me…

      - type: glance
        title: All lights
        entities:           
         - entity: light.bathroom
           tap_action: toggle
         - entity: light.bedroom
           tap_action: toggle
         - entity: light.bedroom_lightstrip
           tap_action: toggle
         - entity: light.diner_table
           tap_action: toggle
         - entity: light.hall_way
           tap_action: toggle
         - entity: light.kitchen
           tap_action: toggle
         - entity: light.livingroom_all
           tap_action: toggle
         - entity: light.bedroom_all
           tap_action: toggle
         - entity: light.livingroom_lamp
           tap_action: toggle
         - entity: light.livingroom_lightstrip
           tap_action: toggle
         - entity: light.livingroom_table
           tap_action: toggle
         - entity: light.office_lightstrip
           tap_action: toggle
         - entity: light.pc
           tap_action: toggle
         - entity: light.table_c
           tap_action: toggle
         - entity: light.table_l
           tap_action: toggle
         - entity: light.table_r
           tap_action: toggle
         - entity: switch.table_lamps
           tap_action: toggle
         - entity: switch.tv_lamp
           tap_action: toggle

Zero response

wmaker · December 30, 2018, 9:52pm

If it helps, my tap_action looks like:

tap_action: 
  action: toggle

Bob_NL · December 30, 2018, 9:53pm

I just found it indeed, thanks

so:

tap_action: toggle

becomes:

           tap_action:
             action: toggle

This however is NOT working:

        entities:           
         - entity: scene.away
           tap_action:
             action: call-service
             service: scene.turn_on
         - entity: scene.morning
           tap_action:
             action: call-service
             service: scene.turn_on   
         ........................

All my light go crazy when I try to execute a scene. It looks like it tries to activate all the scenes at once (cool party effect though ;))

wmaker · December 31, 2018, 3:49am

It could be you still need to specify which scene to turn on in the service.
I just did an experiment using lights instead of scene.
The following worked fine.

      - entity: light.foyer_table_lamp
        tap_action: 
          action: call-service
          service: light.toggle
          service_data:
            entity_id: light.foyer_table_lamp

However if I removed “service_data” (comment out last 2 lines)
and thus didn’t specify which light to toggle, I got
strange behaviors like other lights being toggled.

Bob_NL · December 31, 2018, 9:28am

I tried the following:

    cards:        
      - type: glance
        title: Scenes
        show_state: false
        column_width: 33%        
        entities:           
         - entity: scene.away
           tap_action:
             action: call-service
             service: scene.turn_on
             scene: scene.away
         - entity: scene.morning
           tap_action:
             action: call-service
             service: scene.turn_on
             scene: scene.morning

    cards:        
      - type: glance
        title: Scenes
        show_state: false
        column_width: 33%        
        entities:           
         - entity: scene.away
           tap_action:
             action: call-service
             service: light.toggle
             service_data: 
               entity_id: scene.away
         - entity: scene.morning
           tap_action:
             action: call-service
             service: light.toggle
             service_data:
               entity_id: scene.morning

Both did not work. However, this finally works:

    cards:        
      - type: glance
        title: Scenes
        show_state: false
        column_width: 33%        
        entities:           
         - entity: scene.away
           tap_action:
             action: call-service
             service: scene.turn_on
             service_data: 
               entity_id: scene.away
         - entity: scene.morning
           tap_action:
             action: call-service
             service: scene.turn_on
             service_data: 
               entity_id: scene.morning

QbaF · November 23, 2019, 1:37pm

Another interresting syntax.

Drew.B · July 1, 2020, 12:49pm

Just saved me a headache, thanks!

dkagedal · July 23, 2020, 9:12pm

I think this is really awkward. That you need to provide the scene again in service_data feels unnecessary, and there should be a better way, since this should be a pretty common thing to do.

One way to solve it would be to make turn_on one of the predefined actions in https://www.home-assistant.io/lovelace/actions/#action so that you could just write:

type: glance
entities:
  - entity: scene.movie_time
    tap_action: turn_on

But even better would be to make the `toggle´ action just do the right thing. Didn’t use to do that until recently?

RezzZ · November 14, 2020, 3:57pm

totally agree, this is overcomplicated and a toggle should just activate a scene by default. perhaps you should create a feature request on github

petro · November 14, 2020, 4:22pm

scene doesn’t have a toggle service, nor do scenes have a state or a turn_off service. Making toggle impossible. so to elaborate:

In order to toggle, you need to know the state of a scene. I.e. Scenes need on/off state. This alone is a topic up for discussion because what dictates a scene being on. Is it that all the lights are on? Or is it that all the lights and their settings are met? Next, you’d need a turn_off service. But what happens when you turn off a scene? Are we assuming we just turn off what was turned on? Are users going to have to build the ‘scene’ being off?

Every time this is brought up in a Feature Request or a WTH, it’s met with technical difficulties that no one wants to agree on. This is why tap_actions are the way they are.

And for what it’s worth, the configuration that is a ‘solution’ that I posted years ago is no longer valid. Currently, this is the shortest way to turn on a scene through a glance card:

EDIT: REMOVED BAD INFO

This is the quickest way

      - type: glance
        title: Scenes 
        entities:           
         - entity: scene.xxx
           tap_action:
             action: call-service
             service: scene.turn_on
             service_data:
               entity_id: scene.xxx

stefferber · February 4, 2021, 8:06am

Worked for me, too. Thx. What I do not understand that the top most configuration works for some of the Home Assistant users but not for others like me.

chairstacker · May 13, 2021, 12:52am

I understand that both versions are supposed to be identical, but the second version works for me while the first one does not
Thanks for providing both!

pixelwave · December 7, 2021, 8:13am

For me also only the second version works … might have changed some behavior again?