Migrate yaml configured entities to helpers

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Recently manually created entities are all “moved” (displayed) in helpers.

  • input_number
  • input_boolean
  • utility_meter
  • etc.

Now I am used to got to edit my files and do all there.
But I am willing to got to 'helpers" in the future as I understand that will be the place to go further and I see all my manually yaml-created entities there.

But I cannot edit any helpers from there, it “pops” as unmanageable".

My question is the best way forward/approach to hew to get it natively in helpers without manually delete the config and re-add it in helpers…

I have 192 helpers… of which ~25 are created in helpers…

Any thoughts?

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I keep most of the ‘complex’ ones in yaml. The GUI solution might get improved over time but having the same thoughts as you on manageability.

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That’s the only way to do it currently as far as I am aware. Generally though, as vingerha says, there is no reason to stop using YAML-configured helpers if that is what you find most convenient for the more complex ones. They are not going to go away as far as I understand it.

I have a vague memory of speculation in an earlier forum discussion that GUI-configured helpers might marginally load more quickly at startup, but I may be misremembering, and can’t find it now. I doubt anyone has done a serious benchmark comparison, because the performance differences are likely so small if they exist at all.

The recent addition of listing yaml-configured entities alongside GUI-configured ones in the ‘Helpers’ view was I believe about the convenience of at least seeing everything in the same place. As I’m sure you’ve noticed, YAML-based integrations are also now listed in the ‘Integrations’ page - I’m not sure that it will ever become possible to actually manage them from there, as YAML will always need editing elsewhere.

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Thanks all.

Yaml based integrations in the past were mostly “migrated” to gui with a message the yaml could be removed.

Indeed more recently a lot of yaml integrations were displayed on the integrations page.

Maybe because in the past some yaml things were automatically migrated i sort of expected this from the helpers as well…

It “helps” to see thing in one place yes.
It “confuses” to edit in multiple places.

(Recently I was looking a long time to where I created that yaml links to the menu left side, don’t remember what it was called for years. But the I found via google it was moved to the dashvoard page. And I even ised that… bit totally forgot…)