Multiple coordinators for ZHA integration

[fakuivan (Facundo)]

I’d like to add another controller on an isolated part of the house, where repeaters can’t reach. Right now the ZHA integration complains when I want to add another instance, stating that only one can run. I’d use zigbee2mqtt but the controllers I’m using are EM3581 based, and support for that is listed as experimental.

Is there a supported or hacky way to have another instance of ZHA running, or am I going to just have to try my luck with z2m?

Edit: controllers are IP based, I added the first one to zha using socket://, the isolated part of the house gets wired Ethernet

[francisp (Francis)]

@fakuivan

Is there a supported or hacky way to have another instance of ZHA running

Yes, a second HA instance and remote HA, but besides that, no

@fakuivan

or am I going to just have to try my luck with z2m?

it is listed as experimental, but a lot of people use them without issues.

[fakuivan (Facundo)]

@francisp

Yes, a second HA instance and remote HA, but besides that, no

How sure are we about this? Can’t like the “id” if the integration be changed to something else so that HA thinks it’s a different one?

Edit: maybe something like this Cloning an integration ? How reliable would something like that be?

[francisp (Francis)]

I once tried to clone the rflink integration to add a second rflink. Never succeeded, only HA did not start up again until removed. You sure can try.

[jerrm]

There might be hope soon(ish):

Zigpy developer(s) begun work on external and stand-alone implementations of ZHA

For your information; it looks like a zigpy developer now started work on stand-alone and external implementations of the ZHA integration (i.e. the built-in native Zigbee gateway implementation) for Home Assistant: https://github.com/zigpy/zha (see zigpy/zha#6 if want to get an developers overview) And this matching fork of a new ZHA integration component for Home Assistant that uses said stand-alone and external implementation of “ZHA Gateway”: https://github.com/dmulcahey/home-assistant/tre…

[code-in-progress (Bill - I write code.)]

@fakuivan

I’d like to add another controller on an isolated part of the house, where repeaters can’t reach.

You could go with a high powered, ethernet based repeater. There’s many brands that are available. I have one that covers devices over 80 feet away through a few solid walls.

@fakuivan

I’d use zigbee2mqtt but the controllers I’m using are EM3581 based, and support for that is listed as experimental.

Personally, I’d go with Z2M. Much more flexible in my opinion.

[Tinkerer (aka DubhAd on GitHub)]

@code-in-progress

You could go with a high powered, ethernet based repeater. There’s many brands that are available.

I’ve never seen any for sale. Got examples?

[code-in-progress (Bill - I write code.)]

IIRC, Tubes coordinators can be flashed as a router (all my gear is Tubes stuff). I was wrong about my repeater though… I could have sworn it was ethernet based, but it’s not. It’s one of his first repeaters hence wireless. Sorry about that!

I believe ZigStar also has one available as well. I also seem to recall that the Tasmota builds allowed for the Tuya gateway and the SMLITE gateway to run in repeater mode as well. I’ll see if I can dig up the links that I saw on those.

[Hedda]

Suggest start new thread in the feature request forum or ask that moderator rename this topic to ”Ability to have more than one Zigbee network and Zigbee Coordinator in the ZHA integration” and move this to the feature request forum → Feature Requests - Home Assistant Community

@fakuivan

Is there a supported or hacky way to have another instance of ZHA running

See my reply in the other thread as that hopefully explain why it is like it is today:

Why only one instance of an integration?

Suggest start new thread in the feature request forum or ask that moderator rename this topic to ”Ability to run more than one instance of the ZHA integration” and move this to the feature request forum → Feature Requests - Home Assistant Community Anyway, I do not think that there is any technical reasons why it would not be possible to allow users to run multiple instances of the ZHA integration, but each needs to have its own dedicated Zigbee Coordinator to control a seperate Zigbee network. …

[Tinkerer (aka DubhAd on GitHub)]

@Hedda

Suggest start new thread in the feature request forum or ask that moderator rename this topic to ”Ability to have more than one Zigbee network and Zigbee Coordinator in the ZHA integration”

This thread isn’t a feature request, so making a new feature request would be the way to go.

That said, it’s a pretty niche request so I’d not hold your breath waiting for anybody to develop it.

[Hedda]

@Tinkerer

This thread isn’t a feature request, so making a new feature request would be the way to go.

ZHA integration does not currently support multiple Zigbee Coordinator so asking for exactly that would be the same as a feature request and not just a support or configuration question.

The answer is that it not currently possible for an end user to connect another Zigbee Coordinator and cretae another Zigbee network on it, for that to happen a developer would first need to add support for it.

[Tinkerer (aka DubhAd on GitHub)]

@Hedda

The answer is that it not currently possible for an end user to connect another Zigbee Coordinator and cretae another Zigbee network on it, for that to happen a developer would first need to add support for it.

Right… so… somebody should make a feature request then